Gas Price Prophesy

What will happen to gas prices after the November Elections?

  • Skyrocket if more Democrats win

    Votes: 7 14.9%
  • Gradual increase if more Democrats win

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Stay about the same if more Democrats win

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Gradual decrease if more Democrats win

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Plummet if Democrats gain ground

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Skyrocket if more Republicans win

    Votes: 8 17.0%
  • Gradual increase if more Republicans win

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • Stay about the same if more Republicans win

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gradual decrease if more Republicans win

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Plummet if more Republicans win

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Election will have no effect on prices

    Votes: 25 53.2%

  • Total voters
    47
  • Poll closed .
Kansei said:
just because he doesn't dserve the "beating", doesn't mean he should be taking any credit when prices come down.

He has created quite a bit of unrest in the middle east.. and with unrest comes higher prices, so yeah that's kinda a problem.


Using your logic then, since things are going absolutely dreadfully in Iraq, Gas should be like $10 a gallon.

How would you explain gas prices going down? Supply and Demand? Opec? The rhetoric of Irans president or that slimeball Hugo Chavez?

I say if you take the blame for things going wrong, then you deserve some of the credit when they go right. What goes around......
 
Gas prices started coming down when they discoverd this huge oil deposit off of the coast of louisiana... maybe just a coincidence
 
The average price of a gallon of regular in 2001 was about $1.66. After six years of instability in the middle east, and speculative gouging in the $3.00 range, we should feel oh, so grateful that prices are "down" now to about $2.00. So grateful, in fact, that we should return these crooks to office?
 
my opinion on the matter.........I like driving my car, driving fast, and drving often. I'll deal with the prices as they come.
 
G-Papi said:
The average price of a gallon of regular in 2001 was about $1.66. After six years of instability in the middle east, and speculative gouging in the $3.00 range, we should feel oh, so grateful that prices are "down" now to about $2.00. So grateful, in fact, that we should return these crooks to office?

Even though Bush isn't up for re-election, a Republican will probably win the white house again in 08 just for the pure fact that most Dems in politics spend to much time whining and moaning about how evil Bush and Co. are and forget to put their agenda and plans on the table. But thats a conversation for another time.

Gas prices are what they are, and as long as we want to keep driving, we'll keep paying. When we've decided we've had enough, we'll stop buying and the prices will come down again.
 
G-Papi said:
First phase of prophesy fulfilled. In today's news conference, G.W. Bush, in speaking of why Republicans should be reelected, said, ". . . gas prices are down . . ".

He certainly can't control them, but he doesn't mind taking credit for them when they decrease.

The pricing is political to him.

Sure its political to him - BECAUSE ITS BEEN TURNED INTO A POLITCAL FOOTBALL BY THE OPPOSITION!

Should he just stand there and ignore it? ...A month before an election that if the dems had it their way, they would make everyone believe that all republicans are child molestors, and Barney Frank is just Barney?

The economy has been brought back from the brink after the Y2K over-reaction followed by 9/11, the economy is booming, the markets are at multi-year & all time highs, 4.6% unemployment is near a historical low, last week the IRS reported record quarterly TAX REVENUES, and today it was annouced that the deficit is at a four year low (only 2% of GDP), AND THE PRICE OF GAS HAS BEEN GOING DOWN & NOT UP!

AND - We all have new CX-7s ...aahhhhh, life is good.
 
G-Papi said:
The average price of a gallon of regular in 2001 was about $1.66. After six years of instability in the middle east, and speculative gouging in the $3.00 range, we should feel oh, so grateful that prices are "down" now to about $2.00. So grateful, in fact, that we should return these crooks to office?

In 2001, oil was $20 a bbl. Today it is nearly 3X at ~$60 thanks in part to the growth in demand (not to mention the real polution), in India & China.

$1.66 X 3 = $4.98 ...hmmmmm, maybe the big oil companies aren't doing such a bad job either.

In 1984 Amoco 94 was $1.32 a gallon. 15-16 years later, in 1999-2000, premium was STILL about $1.32 a gallon. That means the price of gas was actually FALLING during those years. That was under REAGAN, BUSH 1, and CLINTON, just for the record. At 3% annual inflation, gas should be $5.00 a gallon today if the price had remained the same.

The simple truth is, the prices of oil and its distillates are controlled by supply & demand, and nothing more. Below is a link to an excellent piece from Bloomberg, dated October 11th. In all its detailed discussion about the current state of oil prices, you will not find a single reference to President Bush, or "crooks in Washington"... they do however dicuss militant attacks in Nigeria, disagreement among OPEC members, and oddly enough, how Venezuela is breaking existing supply contracts. Boone Pickens still thinks higher prices are coming back, but he seems to be in the minority. It is an enlightening read for anyone wishing to truly understand what is effecting the price of oil.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602099&sid=aNYRSHiXuakk&refer=energy
 
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Donas64 said:
When we've decided we've had enough, we'll stop buying and the prices will come down again.

sadly since we all enjoy the "zoom-zoom", we'll be the last to stop buying. Hell, when gas prices were hitting 4 dollars a gallon I bought an MP3 ECU which forced me to use premium fuel lol.

I'm just patiently waiting for electric cars or hydrogen :)
 
Kansei said:
sadly since we all enjoy the "zoom-zoom", we'll be the last to stop buying. Hell, when gas prices were hitting 4 dollars a gallon I bought an MP3 ECU which forced me to use premium fuel lol.

I'm just patiently waiting for electric cars or hydrogen :)

Curse you and your addictivness zoom zoom! Curse you to heck! :)
 
To zoom, or not to zoom; that is the question.
 
Something nobody here has mentioned is that BP had BIG problems with the Alaska pipeline and had intermittent shutdowns on thier largest field to fix the pipe. Prices soared higher artificially on speculation. This was only a couple months after katrina when the problems begain...they hit full newsworthyness in June of this year. Originally, it was to take 6 months to repair, but, after only 3, they are back to full capacity. The speculators leave the market and you get a more representative price.
If you look at the Middle East situation, iraq may hate us (for occupying them), but the Saudis, UAE, Qatar (the worst human rights violators in the world today), and even Afghanistan are all deep into our pockets.
Does the White House control gas prices? No. Absolutely not. Do they send aid and protection to all the countries that supply us oil? Hmmmm. You bet they do. I'll leave it to you to draw the lines, but Condoleeza Rice has spent a lot of time in OPEC nations, lately.
And, someone here already wrote it, but if we standardized the gas formulation or at least streamlined it, we would see an immediate decrease in price. Not because one is worth more than another, but production and distribution become a bulk process with inherent efficiencies in cost. But, our impotent polititcians (from both wings) could care less because nobody in big oil is lining their pockets to change. Record profits ensure that nobody producing, refining or selling any petrolium product is going to do any changing for the near future.
As for American consumers, there is a stat from a show called Autoline Detroit that shows September-October sales of Hybrids have fallen precipitously...8%! Large trucks and SUV sales have increased in the same period by 4% to estimates and 10% over last year in the same period. We have short memories as oil consumers and THAT will ultimately drive prices up again. My prediction, a national average that will seldom drop below 2.60 per gallon regular beginning next summer.
 
Gas price for regular just went below $2 around here. I believe I've got to agree with Platonium about the 2.50 figure.
 
G-Papi said:
Gas price for regular just went below $2 around here. I believe I've got to agree with Platonium about the 2.50 figure.

Gotta keep the prices down so that us americans keep buying big burly man pickup trucks.. oh and to stop funding for research into alternative fuels.

I'll only be happy when I have a hydrogen rotary car.
 
1st Gen said:
Yea, Rummy's gone:)
I'm gonna miss him. I understood him. He was so simple. Now I've got to learn the tactics of somebody with some intelligence.

Back to gas prices now!
 
G-Papi said:
Anybody seeing any changes yet?

Yes, out here in So. Cal, Gas was $2.11 on Monday, this morning it was $2.17 with rumors that it will go up by 40 cents by the end of the week.
 
Fifth straight week of distillate inventory declines...

Sorry guys, I just can't pass up on the opportunity to throw a little water on the conspiracy fire. We drive Mazdas, and THE MARKETS drive oil prices. Here is a headline from today:

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Crude-oil futures tapped a high above $61 a barrel Thursday for the first time in two weeks, buoyed by data showing a smaller-than-expected rise in U.S. crude inventories in the latest week, a fifth week of declining distillate supplies and growing expectations that major oil producers will follow through with a promise to cut output.

The "distillates" is code for gasoline, and "producers" is code for Iran, Nigeria, and Venezuela among others.

You can read the whole thing here:

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B525813EF%2D973F%2D4C5C%2DBB3E%2D11A2AFEA1817%7D&siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts

If George Bush & Dick Cheney would have just lowered the gas prices a little more, the Republicans would have won... but wait a minute, maybe the Dems are raising the price of gas now that they have won because they want to levy the "windfall profits tax" on those evil oil companies!!! They never met a tax they didn't raise.
 
There's alwasy an ostensible reason (never the same, either) for gas pricing. The fact that it's timed this way is just coincidental. . . . Like Rummy's 'resignation'.
 
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