JasonH said:
As for salespeople: There are really only two kinds. The first kind moves from dealership to dealership (and possibly industry to industry) and is normally nowhere to be found when you go back to "your" dealer to trade in your car or buy a new car. The other kind is the one that sells a product they believe in and tends to stay at the same dealership for many years (if it's a good dealership. Bad dealerships tend to have high turnover of even the best salesman.) The ones that stick around tend to have better knowledge of the product and there's also a better chance they're enthusiasts.
Ahhhh, now this is so very true more than anything else. Having worked at more car dealerships than the age of even the oldest person on this board (I worked for a company that serviced about 100 dealerships in Ohio, installing aftermarket stuff on new cars) and I have seen personel change on a weekly basis at some dealerships. Now at a lot of these dealerships, I would have to go back and change things or add things because they did not operate/perform the way the salesperson had said. I also worked at dealerships that have had the same people for years. I few of these dealerships, I still stop at and talk to the folks that worked there because they were genuine people who knew about cars and were good with people. So they are out there, those that are selling cars because they do or at one point did, very much enjoy the types of products they are representing, whether because they owned them or where just awed by the presence of the vehicle itself. I noticed one thing, if you set down in a salespersons office/cubicle and they have lots of thank you cards and such pinned to the wall and they don't look 15 years old, chances are you are dealing with a good one, because not everyone that is pleased sends out thank you cards. I hope this is making sense to everyone reading this. Ok, well, I just got up a few minutes ago, so maybe I should not be trying to rationalize just yet

peace
Griff