david76008
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Sweet. Thanks so much man.
Might have to drop by. Do you go to any other Mazda meets? I've noticed DFW Mazda has some meets too. Not sure how big they are.
Front Mount Intercooler
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Sweet. Thanks so much man.
Might have to drop by. Do you go to any other Mazda meets? I've noticed DFW Mazda has some meets too. Not sure how big they are.
Metallic36
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- 2003 Mazda6 3.0L Speed Yellow
There is one member on here that recently bought a kit, he is going to be running a Forge BPV on his kit, but he is also going to have to make his own flange for it. IMO if you go with a FMIC you are going to gain some power from it, I would just think that the stock BPV by itself is going to hold you back. I know some people run the dual setup, sometimes to just help with the stalling issue of having a bov. With this kit you will be relocating the MAF which will greatly help the stalling issue and then just lets you run an atmospheric bov by itself. On my website I do have the bov flange pipes, they already have the flanges, and they work great with the kit. You can try to do your own kit, but believe me, those couplers can REALLY add up.. 90 degree elbows retail around $30 each. This kit has four. It has the FMIC core, all the piping, t-bolt clamps, and the couplers you need; an installation guide to help you along the way, and I'm always here if you have any questions. This kit is designed specifically for the MSP, so it's not just another "universal" kit. It's not that hard to have a bov, you can find a used one on eBay. The bov flange pipes I offer have either the TurboXS flange, Greddy flange, or HKS flange. It would be easier than trying to make your stock bpv work. Why are you not wanting to use a bov?
Another thought, if you're going to go for the mean look, a bov is going to look a lot meaner sitting in your engine bay than a stock bpv and not only is it going to look better but the whole kit is going to add the performance edge as well to match up with the look.. sort of a bonus then if you're going for just the look
Check out the Photos page on my website, you'll be able to see what this kit looks like on several different cars.
Another thought, if you're going to go for the mean look, a bov is going to look a lot meaner sitting in your engine bay than a stock bpv and not only is it going to look better but the whole kit is going to add the performance edge as well to match up with the look.. sort of a bonus then if you're going for just the look
Check out the Photos page on my website, you'll be able to see what this kit looks like on several different cars.
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david76008
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I've actually spent all morning going thru pages and pages on your kit.
The cheap Ebay BOV would be an option, but I dont even want to chance it.
Worst case scenario, I just hold on installing everything until I get a name brand BOV.
Yes, and BOV would be much better than a BPV in my book, but didn't want to open my wallet that wide at the moment.
The cheap Ebay BOV would be an option, but I dont even want to chance it.
Worst case scenario, I just hold on installing everything until I get a name brand BOV.
Yes, and BOV would be much better than a BPV in my book, but didn't want to open my wallet that wide at the moment.
Metallic36
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Yeah, getting a good bov the first time will save you from the potential problems of a cheap eBay bov. I have the TurboXS RFL bov on mine and I love it. I found mine used on here for $80 shipped. The HKS bov seems to be a popular one as well but does cost a bit more. The Greddy one is probably up there in price with the HKS.
I agree that the best thing would be to hold off on installing it until you are able to get the bov. I am having a sale on the kits, it will go until Monday, it's basically $30 off the regular price. Another bov option would be the TurboXS Type-H, sometimes you can find those used for a good price also.
I agree that the best thing would be to hold off on installing it until you are able to get the bov. I am having a sale on the kits, it will go until Monday, it's basically $30 off the regular price. Another bov option would be the TurboXS Type-H, sometimes you can find those used for a good price also.
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QFT!!
I wish I had followed that advice before, Now I'm dealing with the BS of a knock off. It all reality it only worked well a very short time 2 months or so, and has been acting up sticking and s*** ever since
Patrickenator
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from what i've gathered...you're not going to see a horsepower difference with a BOV, but it will protect your turbo better than the stock BPV...
Metallic36
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Probably not, but a bov will allow all that built-up air to release freely instead of attempting to push it all back through the small 1" hose of the stock bpv and back into the intake. I was thinking it would just feel better overall with a bov and possibly have a better response, maybe just my theory.
Viralphrame
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The stock BPV hose ID is substantially smaller than 1". Fully recirculating with 1" fittings on the BPV (not the stock one, obviously) and hotpipe/intake is one of the available methods to get rid of the compressor surge.
Boosted03MSP
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege Black Mica #928
well if you choose to relocate your maf i believe the altered customs kit would be of no use to you since you would have to cut it up. so might as well built a kit yourself if thats what you decide to do
Metallic36
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And any muffler shop will do the cutting, it's not a big issue. The instructions tell where to cut, and the kit is designed for MAF relocation, and has the reducer couplers included for that purpose. It can also be used without the MAF relocation, the versatility of the kit is really just up to the buyer's preferences. Another thing to consider with building a kit yourself, is that you have many different angles to conquer.
Not any DIY "universal" kit will allow you to have the exact number of clamps, couplers, etc. that you will truly need. There is nothing worse than beginning the install and realizing the pipes aren't going to work, you need more couplers, the FMIC isn't long enough to reach the couplers, etc. They give you a generic number of each, and that is what you get. No guarantee that it's going to fit your car, and most likely you will have to spend more money on more pipes, clamps, and couplers to complete the project.
The Altered Customs kit takes the hassle out of figuring out what goes where and what needs cut, since there is a detailed installation guide available. You get the exact number of t-bolt clamps, reducers (that will fit the turbo and piping), 90 degree elbows, the correct pipes, etc. in the kit and it is designed specifically for the MSP and it isn't a "universal" kit that conveniently is supposed to fit your neighbor's Civic.
If you want to spend more money unexpectedly after you already buy the first DIY kit (the ole "oh crap, I need a $30 elbow to make this pipe work, and two more pipes.. but what size do I need..") and if you want the hassle of figuring it all out on your own, then more power to ya. My priority in designing this Altered Customs kit was to offer owners an inexpensive alternative to other MSP kits, take the hassle out of the DIY kit, and offer a kit that has everything you need, including the instructions.
IMO cutting isn't a big deal, since the frame on the driver's side is going to need cut anyway otherwise your bumper isn't going to go back on. You just have to deal with some things if you want certain results, such as relocating the MAF.. if you want those benefits, you have to do what it takes to get it. The art of modding
Not any DIY "universal" kit will allow you to have the exact number of clamps, couplers, etc. that you will truly need. There is nothing worse than beginning the install and realizing the pipes aren't going to work, you need more couplers, the FMIC isn't long enough to reach the couplers, etc. They give you a generic number of each, and that is what you get. No guarantee that it's going to fit your car, and most likely you will have to spend more money on more pipes, clamps, and couplers to complete the project.
The Altered Customs kit takes the hassle out of figuring out what goes where and what needs cut, since there is a detailed installation guide available. You get the exact number of t-bolt clamps, reducers (that will fit the turbo and piping), 90 degree elbows, the correct pipes, etc. in the kit and it is designed specifically for the MSP and it isn't a "universal" kit that conveniently is supposed to fit your neighbor's Civic.
If you want to spend more money unexpectedly after you already buy the first DIY kit (the ole "oh crap, I need a $30 elbow to make this pipe work, and two more pipes.. but what size do I need..") and if you want the hassle of figuring it all out on your own, then more power to ya. My priority in designing this Altered Customs kit was to offer owners an inexpensive alternative to other MSP kits, take the hassle out of the DIY kit, and offer a kit that has everything you need, including the instructions.
IMO cutting isn't a big deal, since the frame on the driver's side is going to need cut anyway otherwise your bumper isn't going to go back on. You just have to deal with some things if you want certain results, such as relocating the MAF.. if you want those benefits, you have to do what it takes to get it. The art of modding
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Wagonbacker9
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I recommend a dual setup.... BOV on the hot pipe, factory BPV on the cold.... Pics of the setup like this I will be installing this weekend will be up soon.
david76008
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(cool) Will be waiting for them.
Wagonbacker9
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fair warning, I don't have the mounting hardware for the SSQV, so it will be GHETTO until I order the correct parts and fix it...
hotrocker89
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which front mount intercooler is best for the mazdaspeed protege i know perrin was good but they dont make that one no more is there one that can give me better performance and cooling? which one do you guys recommend
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Turbolife remade the perrin set-up and is the best I'm not sure if he has any left try PM'ing him and see. If not check the forsale section for a used MAM set-up or some others
HondaEat-R
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Theres no reason to run dual setup unless you need to have the "whoosh" sound of VTA and run the MAF in stock location.
blueprotegelx
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Definitely get a full kit, preferably from Altered Custom. I refused b/c it's such a large amount of money to dish out at once. Now that I have everything and I am now waiting to finish summer school to install, it has totalled about hundred less than her kit if that. Universal piping was about $160ish, TurboLife FMIC Core $115, and then I had to buy seperate couplers (reducers mostly) and clamps that added up to about $60-70, and then I had to buy a flange for my HKS SSQV which was $20. Buying a kit saves you the hassle of trying to figure out what you need. Plus I haven't even installed my kit yet, so I may need to go get more couplers, or run out of piping and run up to an exhaust shop to use exhaust pipe til I can get a hold of aluminum piping or what not. THINK ABOUT IT! Her kit is well worth it....
Wagonbacker9
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I 100% agree. PLUS her kit comes with instructions. I kinda just did it by the seat of my pants as I was going and used EVERY coupler at my disposal, and a lot more of the tubes than I was planning on (just to get the bends pointed where I wanted them), On the plus side, my kit came out pretty cheap, but a lot of that is because I went with a smaller than normal core.
blueprotegelx
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I feel my core is somewhat small than others as well, although I'm not to sure as I have yet to measure it. It will for sure fill my opening in front bumper. Luckily I have plenty of patience and enjoy, I guess you could say, strategizing. So routing the pipes will be fun. lol. I plan on taking detailed photos as well and making a thread of some sort, it may help those taking the turbo route understand where everything goes.
Wagonbacker9
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my core doesn't fill the front opening, prb 6" on each side, so you can see the whole coupler.
custom building stuff is TONS of fun when it works... I consider myself lucky. if I hadn't gotten a kit with 2 U bends, I'da been up a creek, and been seriously pissed off. I'll post up pics sooner or later. i've been lazy about getting the pics off the cam.
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