Failed piston ring?

TurfBurn said:
Did you run adjusted bearing tolerances?
Stock sized bearings.

Tighten them down from the stock clearances? Or did you run standard tolerance. Was there any oil port cleanup done and what viscosity oil and so forth were you running?
Oil port cleanup? Not that i know of...

10w 30 Mobil 1.
 
Kooldino said:
I posted pics of both halves there.
Sorry I guess I should look before I post. How do the other bearings look? This one does not look to be wiped from an oil problem. It looks like damage from dirt. I am not talking about oil in your oilpan or by not doing an oil change or two. I mean from when it went together. How is the crankpin surface?
 
no thats not from crank walking... defintely some type of foreign material got in there.
 
and crank walk results in uneven one sided wear.... this was pretty comprehensive... and the scoring definitely looks like foreign material...
 
hmm..i didnt notice either about the 2 halves.

But I still hold my statement, if the crankshaft is ok, its good to go.

That could be caused by dirty hands, dust or by installing them without lubricant...maybe?? just a thought!
 
Dirt huh?? Who built your motor dude? Whoever it was, they need to learn how to keep s*** clean and use some assembly lube.(dark)

Maybe you can get them to help out with the cost, if it was their problem.
 
igdrasil said:
hmm..i didnt notice either about the 2 halves.

But I still hold my statement, if the crankshaft is ok, its good to go.

That could be caused by dirty hands, dust or by installing them without lubricant...maybe?? just a thought!
I dry first start would cause a bearing to wipe. These have grooves in them. That can only be done by dirt or by nicking the crankshaft. Since our engines do not have rod bolts pressed into the rod them it would be hard to nick the crankshaft when it went together.

What did the main bearings look like? Are they fine?
 
no... I was making a related but not direct comment. I'm assuming Dana used stock bearings... I'm just surprised to see the stock rod bearings were apparently both grooved... but the fact that I have a set of Toga High Performance bearings on my desk next to me and the rod bearings are NOT grooved at all..

Dana, putting in stock bearings without them being sized or clearance checked can result in major issues.... Pro5 ran into that this week and his bearings are fried as well after only a few thousand miles. It's really important that you run a good bearing clearance. I'm aiming for about 2.1 to 2.2 thousandths of clerance. I believe stock is just shy of 3 thousandths. (on the mains) If you run a bad clearance you can get oil starvation, low oil pressures, large particles can make it in if the oil isn't filtered well enough and other problems that can add up to be a major problem. I don't know the stock rod clearance but from what I've been told it's pretty close to that of the mains. Make sure if you have your crank reground and so forth that the clearances are checked with a dial bore gauge and if necessary that all the caps (both mains and rod) are hand lapped to the right clearance.
 
TurfBurn said:
no... I was making a related but not direct comment. I'm assuming Dana used stock bearings... I'm just surprised to see the stock rod bearings were apparently both grooved... but the fact that I have a set of Toga High Performance bearings on my desk next to me and the rod bearings are NOT grooved at all..
They are not grooved when they are new. They look grooved now because of the dirt cutting away at the babbit.
 
Gotchya... just the one picture showed such an apparent centered relief of about 1/4" wide that I got that impression... Amazing how much material was removed on those then if i'm seeing it right... yikes.
 
TurfBurn said:
Gotchya... just the one picture showed such an apparent centered relief of about 1/4" wide that I got that impression... Amazing how much material was removed on those then if i'm seeing it right... yikes.
Yikes is right. Personally, having bearing look like that, would mean complete teardown for me.
 
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