Facing some issues with gas pedal depress
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Yes, mileage has dropped. I would say significantly of late. 3 refills now I am averaging around 24 mpg whereas consistently was averaging approx. 27 mpg. The drop in mileage is happening after the horrible snow storm.
Next, factory recommended tire pressure is 36 psi, but I have always kept my cars at around 2 to 3 psi more. Thus 39 psi, regularly checked.
I have not changed my driving habits but yes I do not drive like there's no tomorrow. I am always a cautious driver. My driving habits have not changed, but mileage dropped and pedal feel dropped.
At this point - I am leaning towards the cold weather causing the MPG drop. However, pedal feel its troubling me.
Next, factory recommended tire pressure is 36 psi, but I have always kept my cars at around 2 to 3 psi more. Thus 39 psi, regularly checked.
I have not changed my driving habits but yes I do not drive like there's no tomorrow. I am always a cautious driver. My driving habits have not changed, but mileage dropped and pedal feel dropped.
At this point - I am leaning towards the cold weather causing the MPG drop. However, pedal feel its troubling me.
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Well, you want a video of it? I'll be happy to take one. Not being a dick this go, serious. I think I might take a vid. I have owned vehicles with automatics before (I hate autos as a rule), and NONE lagged like this. Even my 2.0L Infiniti G20, so I know it's not just being used to a more powerful vehicle.
Dang, you got pretty good mileage there. I got around 24mpg in Fall, and got only 20-22mpg in early winter. Tires are at 34psi per sticker, compromising rolling resistance for some additional traction on ice/snow. As I mentioned in another thread that my car probably broke-in recently, I'm getting more 24-25mpg trips (using the monitor app, calculating at the pump is only 20mpg due to pre-warming with remote starter).
I know. Minimal throttle on a green light ALWAYS puts me way ahead of the pack. And I have the sweet little 2.0L!
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Here is what happens when you floor it. Lots of lag due to the tiny torque converter, is what I think it is. Takes what feels like about one and a half second for the car to move from the time you floor it. Always puts you behind anyone beside you from the get-go. Tip-in gets much more immediate movement as it doesn't overwhelm the little tq converter, but flooring it will leave you sitting there wondering what the hell. Never had a car with "dead in the water" reflexes off the line like my CX-5. Anyway, there it is on video, Mike, plain as day. It's actually a lot longer delay than I gave it credit for before, and in the video, taking 1.5-2 seconds, based on the stop-watch watching the video...pretty different from what everyone else is claiming. Either you guys have never had a vehicle with a decent torque converter and throttle input before/have very low expectations, or something is terribly wrong with my CX-5 and the ECU is just too inept to throw an error code.
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Looks pretty quick to me! I'm not sure what your complaint is, it's not a competition drag racer. Even if it were, a knowledgeable driver can easily figure out how to eliminate the miniscule delay it does have! The transmission has to shift from Neutral to First after you step on the throttle unless you know how to do it properly. It ain't rocket science. It has nothing to do with the size of the torque converter. (whistle)
Biggest takeaway I got from this video is that you pronounce words in a very odd way, not like most Americans. Kinda creepy but it fits with your belief that violence should be the final arbiter of peoples differences. An odd combination of the dialects used by the violence loving hooligans in A Clockwork Orange and a hillbilly character in Cold Mountain. Creeepy.
Biggest takeaway I got from this video is that you pronounce words in a very odd way, not like most Americans. Kinda creepy but it fits with your belief that violence should be the final arbiter of peoples differences. An odd combination of the dialects used by the violence loving hooligans in A Clockwork Orange and a hillbilly character in Cold Mountain. Creeepy.
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Violence IS the final arbiter. It's not whether or not it should be, or what I think. It's just a fact.
Seemed like there was a significant delay between input/action, to me.
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Yep, otherwise MikeM's insult would not have stood, and my trolling response wouldn't have worked out. But it doesn't have one. So...
This forum is certainly lively with all the heated discussions 
Eventually, all involved will show enough of their personality/characteristic to others that it'll boring to all to keep the attack going.
“In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them.”
― Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game
It's funny that I'm playing the game "Tales of Symphonia", the game would be boring and dull without its skits - sideline conversations/jokes that bring out the personality of the characters. I totally appreciate and enjoy what's happening here
Eventually, all involved will show enough of their personality/characteristic to others that it'll boring to all to keep the attack going.
“In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them.”
― Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game
It's funny that I'm playing the game "Tales of Symphonia", the game would be boring and dull without its skits - sideline conversations/jokes that bring out the personality of the characters. I totally appreciate and enjoy what's happening here
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This forum is certainly lively with all the heated discussions
Eventually, all involved will show enough of their personality/characteristic to others that it'll boring to all to keep the attack going.
“In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then in that very moment I also love him. I think it’s impossible to really understand somebody, what they want, what they believe, and not love them the way they love themselves. And then, in that very moment when I love them.... I destroy them.”
― Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game
It's funny that I'm playing the game "Tales of Symphonia", the game would be boring and dull without its skits - sideline conversations/jokes that bring out the personality of the characters. I totally appreciate and enjoy what's happening here
...and so do I, and so does Mike, and so do all the others out there who whine about it...or they wouldn't keep reading the posts. They would simply use the "Ignore" feature on the forum and be done with it. So the only POSSIBLE conclusion is that it IS indeed enjoyable...
Violence is not the way we settle our differences in America unless you want to end up in prison (and there are plenty of examples of that).
My point about your video was that it didn't show anything out of the ordinary considering the crude way you applied the throttle. A little skill goes a long way here. And the slight delay you recorded on camera has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the torque converter, regardless of your numerous but uninformed attempts to claim that the CX-5 has a torque converter that is too small for the application. Simply false no matter how many times you make the claim. I mentioned your accent because it was the only thing in the video I found unusual.
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I am not familiar with the SkyActive motors but do they possibly include stop/start in them that might be a reason for the lag?
My wife was coming from a 2008 Outback with the PZEV and it would cut gas when not accelerating which caused some serious lag/jerk reactions when taking turns.
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I inflect whatever accent I'm feeling at the time. Since I was making a video for you, Mike, I made it a bit creepy (your words). Thought you'd like that, and I was right
Even in your world, violence is the golden standard it seems, Mike. You're probably just being blind to it because you're so far removed from those who would do it on your behalf, or who deal with it daily, that you have forgotten that yes, that IS how people end up in prison, ultimately, when they don't want to go. It's a lot of other things, too, but that is a great example of violence/the threat of, being the gold standard of an orderly society. Unless you are going to play dumb, I think you should admit that it's "clicked" for you, now...
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I inflect whatever accent I'm feeling at the time. Since I was making a video for you, Mike, I made it a bit creepy (your words). Thought you'd like that, and I was right
Even in your world, violence is the golden standard it seems, Mike. You're probably just being blind to it because you're so far removed from those who would do it on your behalf, or who deal with it daily, that you have forgotten that yes, that IS how people end up in prison, ultimately, when they don't want to go. It's a lot of other things, too, but that is a great example of violence/the threat of, being the gold standard of an orderly society. Unless you are going to play dumb, I think you should admit that it's "clicked" for you, now...
No, violence will never "click" with me in the way it "clicks" for you.
But this is a CX-5 forum and your claims about the "tiny" little torque converter being too small for the job are simply uninformed. If you have info to the contrary, then present it.
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I know. It can't. You're too far removed from it, or you've blocked it out as a defense mechanism, or whatever. Also, people are wired differently, too, of course. I accept responsibility for my person, and am capable and willing to be violent. You claim to not be willing or able, or both. It's a completely different mentality. This is why some women piss themselves to keep from being *****, and other women learn/use some form of martial arts/ mace/ firearm. It's why some people dial 911 and pray, and others arm themselves, dial 911, and pray. It's a difference in how you were raised, taught, wired, and your life experiences.
But understand this, Mike, the only reason you can play dumb with me about this, is because people who understand violence are forced to use it every day on your behalf, to allow you to deny reality as you are.
I guess it's just the logic of the ECU that's causing the lag not present in other vehicles I've owned, even when being ham-fisted. I cannot prove it's the tq converter, and it did seem to take a second for the RPMS to increase, as well. Indicating ECU involvement.
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From an older C&D article:
"Shifts from the automatic are as crisp as winter air, and the CX-5’s throttle responds like a small-town cop who’s just heard there’s a cat stuck in a tree."
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-mazda-cx-5-grand-touring-awd-page-4
"Shifts from the automatic are as crisp as winter air, and the CX-5’s throttle responds like a small-town cop who’s just heard there’s a cat stuck in a tree."
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-mazda-cx-5-grand-touring-awd-page-4
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From a roll, I agree 100%. From a dig, there is lag at WOT. Tip-in is good though, as stated.
