Exhaust

I heard Vibrant is good....but is it 3" tubing? 2.5in is fine for our stock turbine...
 
The CS exhaust gives it a WRX-y kinda sound
silvermsp said:
Has anybody heard a MSP sound like a WRX, I would really like it to sound something like that....
thanks
 
Earful said:
I heard Vibrant is good....but is it 3" tubing? 2.5in is fine for our stock turbine...


Once again, 3" is the way to go....

Vibrant is 2.5" (at the j-pipe) and flares out to 3"
 
evilmonkeyMSP said:
couldnt tell you....if you're on stock boost you wont gain any more HP w/ a 3" exhaust as you would a 2.5"

Yup, all the 3" will get you over the 2.5" is noise.
 
Lt. Dan said:
Yup, all the 3" will get you over the 2.5" is noise.


Let open this up for some friendly debate. Im not 100% convinced of this

Everyone keeps saying, 250whp this 250whp that.... "If you dont plan on going over 250whp, then 2.5in is enough" I am assuming that everyon is getting this from the article/book cork bell wrote....

The principles for a turbo charged car is the same, no matter what car you are reffering to. The less backpressure, the better.

The reason I say go with a 3" exhaust is because mods compliment each other.... A fmic/smic + 3" exhaust will yield higher numbers than with a 2.5" exhaust. Almost every mod in combination with a 3" will yield higher numbers than with a 2.5" exhaust.

For our car, I garauntee you that a 3" ghl turbo back exhaust (on a bone stock car) will produce better numbers than a corksport downpipe/ with 2.5" piping back. A 3" setup may only produce 1-5whp more. Although that amount is so little, I think it is false to say that you will see no gains and only create more noise...

(Mind you, if you plan on keeping your car bone stock, then a 2.5" turboback setup may be all you need). But for the people who do mod their cars, I think a 3" exhaust would be a better route. The more mods you do, the closer your car moves to that "250whp" number. The closer you get to it, the more gains you will see in a 3" setup over a 2.5" setup.

"250whp" is just too broad for me. Its not a CFM rating or measure of exhaust gas, its just a HP number. There are too many variables (displacement, # of cylinders, turbo size & amount of boost, intake, smic/fmic and their piping length/diameter, transmition, gear ratio, etc. etc.) that can influence the amount of power that actually reaches the road. Its just too universal to apply to every car on the face of the planet.
 
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The principles for a turbo charged car is the same, no matter what car you are reffering to. The less backpressure, the better.

Generally...True enough.....

"250whp" is just too broad for me. Its not a CFM rating or measure of exhaust gas, its just a HP number. There are too many variables (displacement, # of cylinders, turbo size & amount of boost, intake, smic/fmic and their piping length/diameter, transmition, gear ratio, etc. etc.) that can influence 250whp. Its just too universal to apply to every car on the face of the planet.

This statement solidifies my stance that, based on our stock turbo size, and what dia. tubing Mazda provided for exhaust, that 2.5" is the ideal size for the aftermarket exhaust system
 
I love my custom 3" exhaust. I had a 2.5" and I really didn't notice anything but when I got my 3" I noticed alot I gained about 2-3lb of boost with out touching my boost controller. If you really want to go balls to the wall a 3" donw pipe and nothing else is my choice by far the sound is awsome plus if someone is driving to slow in front of you and you want to let them know that your pissed of pass them at wide open throttle and just look at the expession on there face it's great.
 
Earful said:
This statement solidifies my stance that, based on our stock turbo size, and what dia. tubing Mazda provided for exhaust, that 2.5" is the ideal size for the aftermarket exhaust system

I would agree that if you plan on doing nothing else to the car, then a 2.5" exhaust would be fine. But for the majority of people who do more than an exhaust, I think a 3" exhaust would be idea. Like I said, I think the closer you get to that "250wheel hp" mark, the performance from a 3" exhaust will greatly increase over a 2.5" setup.

Concerning the theory, there are too many variables that can determine how much power is actually making it to the wheels. If 250 crank hp was being argued, then I would have a little less of an arguement. But since we are talking about wheel HP, I just cant see the 2.5"/250hp theory applying to everycar on the planet...
 
Another thing to lok at is that if you go a custom 3" that isn't mandrel bent, then it is no better than doing a 2.5"mandrel bent system like the corksport. The exhaust is only as good as its narrowest point, so if the inner diameter at the bends is only 2.4" then you really don't have a 3" exhaust.
 
Jeph said:
Another thing to lok at is that if you go a custom 3" that isn't mandrel bent, then it is no better than doing a 2.5"mandrel bent system like the corksport. The exhaust is only as good as its narrowest point, so if the inner diameter at the bends is only 2.4" then you really don't have a 3" exhaust.

agreed, but im comparing 2.5" (well 2.4" corksport spipe to 2.5" exhaust) to the 3" GHL system. I am assuming 2.5" vs 3" that both systems are mandrel bent
 
If you go 3" you will probably loose some low end grunt(torque). A 3" exhaust will prob. give you more at the top end however you will sacrafice a little on the bottom end. All depends on where you want the power to be. I agree with most of you in that unless you plan on major mods a smooth flowing 2.5" exhaust is prob. all you need!
 
exhaust

post up some sound clips and what not. i have the stock exhaust on the msp and would love to hear what they sound like uncorked.
 
If you search here...there are many links to sites like youtube, that have several MSP audio and video clips.
 
Exhaust System

Hi, To every one!. I'm looking for a after market cat-back exhaust system 2.5" for a 05 mazda-3, 2.3L engine, that will allow me too pass EMISSION CONTROL TEST!. Can any one assist with this info!?, Thanks.(peep)
 
silvermsp said:
Has anybody heard a MSP sound like a WRX, I would really like it to sound something like that....
thanks

a wrx has a flat 4, kinda like a v8 but instead of a v shape its flat. the exhaust manifolds are unequal in length so you get that lopey burble kind of sound which is kinda like an engine with a v configuration. the closest youll get to a wrx sound is if youre misfiring or just not running right.
 

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