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the neon will blow and hard! just you wait! im done with this retarded thread now! and maybe i should research moer but at least i knew that it wasnt a neon motor and that they used a pt turbo motor instead no one else has mentioned that in here but me so maybe you need a refresher too neon boy!
 
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kylenls said:
the neon will blow and hard! just you wait! im done with this retarded thread now! and maybe i should research moer but at least i knew that it wasnt a neon motor and that they used a pt turbo motor instead no one else has mentioned that in here but me so maybe you need a refresher too neon boy!


I agree, so it seems about half and half Evo vs STi. I guess I will make up my mind tomarrow. Forget the SRT-4 I have no intrest in that thing at all.
 
spacemonkey said:
Get an EVO better gas milage and cheaper. You know why EVOIIIs are going cheap now? Suposidly the 2004 Lancer Evolution RS is suppose to be alot faster. So the old EVOs are outta date...

A regular EVO 8 isn't going for any cheaper now, if you don't believe me go to your dealership and look...
The EVO 8RS is a lightened version of the regular EVO 8, and the RS is cheaper than the standard evo. With the RS you strip the car of everything that isn't necessary. AC, power windows, stereo, ABS, rear wing, HID lights, etc...
 
i was just trolling around looking for body kits for the new mazda 3 (which i can't find using the search button) and came across this thread.

anyway, i think you should get the evo, hands down. there's a whole legacy behind this car that's just mind boggling if you sit down and think about it. plus, the evo's numbers are barely behind the STi's in comparison tests (and in some cases it's faster). the steering ratio is much, much shorter than the STi, which gives it that razor-like steering feel. the engine is damn near bullet proof, while the STi is aluminum with a history (albeit short) of pinging. the STi does not come with sunroof or cd player because it's marketed as a more "hardcore driver's car"... yet the general consensus of STi owners is that it's a better daily driver car than the evo. if it's a better daily driver car, why is it supposedly a more "hardcore driver's" car? bad marketing,? no.. i think suby simply did not achieve what it meant to. also remember the STi in america is different from other STis in the world; only in america do we get the 2.5 300 hp /300 tq engine... everywhere else it's the same 2.0 276 hp/xx tq engine. this engine has NOT been tested; there is simply NO way to discern whether or not it will hold up in the long run. admittedly, one would not worry TOO much about it, since subaru has a pretty good history, but the concern will always lurk there.

the power in the evo is astonishing. the STi is presumably more so (haven't driven one, just been in em); however, to the person that wrote "but they don't have the power for the money"... i really dont' think the difference is to the point where one could say it's not worth the 30k. to say that the evo's power output isnt' enough... uhm... that's kind of ignorant. let's play what if for a sec: the msrp for the STi is like 2k more than the evo (i really dont' get where everyone is getting that the STi is cheaper... and let's not get into "oh my friend got it for this much... cuz it's a bs argument if we go there). put that 2k towards the evo and you have a car that's JUST as powerful (if not more so) and will ALWAYS handle better.

also, since everyone seems to be mag racing, the STi's win/loss record against the evo in mags isn't exactly... "shining"....

the exterior/interior debate is subjective.. though i'd say the STi reminds me a bit of a KIA... i personally prefer the evo's interior... they both are more functional that form-based. the seating position in the STi is more awkward, and the seats don't hold you in as well. i think the evo's much more comfy, and is larger.

true, i wish the evo came with ayc/acd... but it's not something you'll miss because you don't know what it feels like WITH the car, not to mention that the car outhandles the STi hands down anyway.

i prefer 5 speed gearboxes.. less shifting... which has affected the STi's numbers when comparison testing (though i can't remember what magazine i read said numbers in)... to the person that said that you'll get confused in a rush with the evo in regards to the intercooler spray.. most people just set the button on AUTO and not worry about it.

in regards to the evo rs: it's lighter by something like 150 pounds.. but if you get the jungle package (which includes the spoiler and body paint matched door handles and some other stuff i cant remember) then it cuts that weight loss down even more. i think it's just kind of waste of money for 27k. just get the regular evo for 1.5-3 k more... but some people are more into the purity of racing. it's also got a front lsd which the evo doesn't have. i haven't read too many things on the RS magazine wise, since it's not exactly open to the public yet... but you could always wait for it to come out. but from what i HAVE read, there isn't much difference at ALL... in fact, the spoiler-less RS was said to be more unstable at high speed cornering (of course)....

anyway, i don't want to look like i'm ragging on the STi, i think it's a great car... it does have 3 lsds, and more power... more comfort for daily driving... it gets down to personal preference. i personally prefer the Evo...

www.evolutionm.net
www.nasioc.com

these sites may better help you in your comparo.

also, the SRT-4's a good car... it does, after all, have a mitsu turbo :) ... and is ultra fast, fantastic value... handles well with the front lsd... not great, but well for an american 'muscle' car.
 
NEON BOY come on man what's up with that! You obviously are very bitter maybe an SRT blew your doors off and you can't take it I understand it's O.K.
First off I never came on here to bash the MSP. I think the car is great but this hatred you have for the SRT... Boy there is something behind that. The SRT engine was built for boost the only thing holding it back is the limits of the stock turbo.
And no the SRT motor and the PT turbo motor are not the same. They have the same common design But differ for power out puts. So Please KYLENLS man stop the hating If you were a TRUE car enthusiest you would apreciate every car for what it is I don't Know where you got your info that the SRT motor will blow but your opinion is dead wrong!
 
ColinsT MAN That is a toughy The only other thing is the STEREO issue. The STI doesn't come with a stereo it's an option same as floor mats. I don't know if it matters but just thought I would throw that out. But both cars KICK @$# anyways!
 
I'm sure there are many people out there who face the same predicament as you.... You're looking for a car which pushes the edge of performance, however, has reliability and daily driveability.

You have settled on the Evo or STI. Both are amazing cars in every right. We can start picking out the flaws in them right away, but that's not why you buy a car. You buy a car that fits your personality as well as your budget.

The sport compact class is exploding right now, and many car manufacturers are left scratching their heads wondering what happened (Toyota/Honda).

Another car you should look at is the Infiniti G35 Coupe. If you're looking at a car that fits your personality, you may be very surprised in the all around finish and driveability of that car.

If you're just looking for all out performance and handelling, the EVO is probably the right car for you.

I was going to get the evo, until I test drove the SRT-4. Though I was very impressed with the Evo's off-the-line destruction, for some reason, the SRT-4 just fit my personality better.

After a few months, the aftermarket started to explode on the SRT-4. I soon realized that I had made a great choice in car selection.

Right now, here is where we stand performance wise. We have a number of SRT-4's in the south florida area that are putting down 300 whp and 340 wtq with about $2000 in mods. The IPP coilovers just came out (about 2 months ago) which completely change the handelling aspect of this car. The 2004 model year has the LSD as standard, so, just to stand up for my car, I want to point out that it's more about personality than performance.

Just for the record, I ran an Evo from a roll and at 100 (shifting into 4th), I had him by a car and a half. I have a K&N drop in and the "Spring Mod". I dyno'd 227 to the wheels with 245 TQ.

Summary... if you're stuck between the STI and EVO, GO EVO!!
 
Zooooooooooom said:
A regular EVO 8 isn't going for any cheaper now, if you don't believe me go to your dealership and look...
The EVO 8RS is a lightened version of the regular EVO 8, and the RS is cheaper than the standard evo. With the RS you strip the car of everything that isn't necessary. AC, power windows, stereo, ABS, rear wing, HID lights, etc...

hmmmm...maybe where you live but in Orlando they are selling like hot cakes (esp the silver). I think one can be had for a few grand more then a WRX. Not sure but I will check tommorow....Im sure its gettign cheaper.

I just saw that infor on Car and Driver....same out put just lighter car...and it said it was more expensive...just by a grand or two.

Ive never driven AWD but isnt it kinda hard to drag it? I was watching top gear test out the new Lambo and Imprezzzza and they said you have to let it off easily before flooring it. But either way AWD is fun....I would assume.
 
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I say forget the evo and the sti... If you like Japanese cars go with the Garaiya... 2.0 liter without turbo at 204 HP and still Mid-engine Rear wheel drive. This car is bad-a$$. I saw it at the JGTC in Japan

Specs.
http://www.prospec-ms.co.uk/pdf/autoexpress_753.pdf

http://www.centerpub.com/archive/topic/2859.html

But if you want EVO vs STI. Go with the STI, its less tuned then the EVO. So you have more potential out of the car... But keep in mind Mitsubushi has international patent on all Turbocharges for the next 37.5 years. So only Mitsu can make new and better turbos for a car. (spin) (msptitani
 
Heres an idea. Save your money for another year and buy a fricken lotus elise when it comes to the America. You cant beat that, that thing is nasty at everything it does, and it screams hotness. You will decimate and be one of the hottest and newest car out there. Or if you need, a car right now why arent you looking at the 350Z. Im not sure bout u but in CT i found one for 31K that is pretty good. Well I was just giving you another option, but if your stuck to these cars again i say STI.
 
If you wanna Z and live near Atl, my friend is trying to get rid of his $30,000... Just FYI all Z has tire feather and suspension problem. Make sure you read up on the Z fourm before u get it...
 
i like how a lot of people never drive both cars and are saying one over the other because of what they hear

the evo is not even close to being tapped out for mods. not even close. i believe buschur racing got the evo into 11's on stock turbo without nitrous. can sti do that? no, the turbo's too small.

also, my friend bought a g35 coupe... beautiful car... decent performance, but i don't think it's worth the money... more of a status symbol than a driver's car... i was thinking of that, 350z, rx8 before i got my evo... got the evo, have never been happier with a car.
 
FYI I have driven my friend's evo and STI. He has a 11.7 sec STI and a 12.5 sec EVO both using 114 octane racing fuel.... over 70k in the car each.... The EVO is his wife's car....
 
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