engine swap?

that's fine, particuarly for an MSP because the MBSP *has* to come off regardless of which version of the motor it is... you NEED to put in the MSP specific MBSP in order for the turbo drain back to work

this is not an MSP
this is an MP3, there is no oil return fitting needed
 
Or you can plumb it into the actual oil pan but that doesn't always work best, but it can get you going again in a bad or desperate situation. But we're talking about MP3 so that part wont matter.
exactly, but for MSPs, I don't recommend that ghetto s*** either... while 9 out of 10 times people won't have a problem with a welded bung on the oil pan (as it is always done on aftermarket turbo installs), I have heard/seen of people have s*** from the road hit the oil pan and rip the s*** off then blowing up the engine... now had the engine been non-turbo or the oil return is sitting high up like the stock MSP setup, the road debris would've dented the oil pan at best (which is highly unlikely and would instead just bounce right off and keep on passing on under the car)
 
Well let's just say "Yes, it can fit with some minor modifications" and help the guy get his car back on the road as cheaply and quickly as possible. With out any info the guy can be easily screwed by the wrong people.
 
yes, and I was referring to post #3...in reference to the op

thanks captain obvious
post #3 refers specifically to what he needs to get done to get the engine to "bolt in the same"

now if he doesn't care and just wants to half ass s*** like you have been very happy with yours so far, then just bolt the b**** on
 
Well let's just say "Yes, it can fit with some minor modificatios" and help the guy get his car back on the road as cheaply and quickly as possible. With out any info the guy can be easily screwed by the wron people.

lol, that's exactly what I was originally trying to do...agreed
 
Well let's just say "Yes, it can fit with some minor modifications" and help the guy get his car back on the road as cheaply and quickly as possible. With out any info the guy can be easily screwed by the wrong people.
which is exactly why I wasted an hour on this thread already


then again, I'm bored and can't sleep
 
which is exactly why I wasted an hour on this thread already


then again, I'm bored and can't sleep

you wasted an hour because you didn't want to explain what you meant was that 'there are differences' and not 'it wont work'...regardless of the fact that I was saying that 'there are differences' and that 'it will work'

thanks captain obvious
post #3 refers specifically to what he needs to get done to get the engine to "bolt in the same"

now if he doesn't care and just wants to half ass s*** like you have been very happy with yours so far, then just bolt the b**** on

I'm sorry you feel that converting the engine to electionic ignition was 'halfassing' it....or that completely stripping it down, thoroughly cleaning the engine engine, re-ringing it, completely overhauling it and then dropping it in was 'halfassing' it

yea, there are differences, but these differences are not detrimental to the life of the motor and will not affect how the engine runs or operates...don't assume that because I got the engine for a good price and decided to use it means that I didn't do the installation properly or take all the steps necessary to get it to run the best it can

now that being said, let's get back to the ORIGINAL POSTER'S task
 
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I think he's long been a sleep, I hope at the very least he has a good laugh when he reads the thread and is able to at least think "thank you"
 
you felt like arguing my point and not take a simple short answer... most people who aren't car freaks like the majority of this board don't care about details and are perfectly happy with the short answers... but you chose to exacerbate the situation by arguing

I feel you're halfassing your because, you have to macguver s*** to get the stock oil cooler and knock sensor to work... reduce the durability/strength of the engine by having a CAST crank
do I have to remind everyone your car has a turbo in it?

just because it runs, doesn't mean it's good
 
Who was it that turned the "regular protege" thread into the 20 some odd pages of nothingness?
 
you felt like arguing my point and not take a simple short answer... most people who aren't car freaks like the majority of this board don't care about details and are perfectly happy with the short answers... but you chose to exacerbate the situation by arguing

I feel you're halfassing your because, you have to macguver s*** to get the stock oil cooler and knock sensor to work... reduce the durability/strength of the engine by having a CAST crank
do I have to remind everyone your car has a turbo in it?

just because it runs, doesn't mean it's good

actually I "macguvered" it because this was a temporary engine and not intended to take anything higher than factory power levels

and there is nothing wrong with "macguvering" it to work, take a look at 99% of the turbo kits out there for any engine and you will see that the entirety of it is "macguvered" to work

and the short answer of "it is different" implies the message of "it wont work", which is the incorrect answer and why I argued

and again, this is a completely side argument and let's get back to the topic at hand
 
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actually I "macguvered" it because this was a temporary engine and not intended to take anything higher than factory power levels

and there is nothing wrong with "macguvering" it to work, take a look at 99% of the turbo kits out there for any engine and you will see that the entirety of it is "macguvered" to work

and the short answer of "it is different" implies the message of "it wont work", which is the incorrect answer and why I argued

and again, this is a completely side argument and let's get back to the topic at hand
you're still driving with this engine... how many years has it been?

so much for "temporary"
 

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