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I had my parts guys look into the difference between the MSP and P5 transmissions. After tearing mine apart to do the differential I found several differences between this one and other Protege tranny's I have taken apart. Several people have asked me on different occasions what the differences were and I told them purely on what I saw from mine.... Well guess what, I was wrong. Sort of.

If you have a P5 with a build date AFTER 2/14/ 2002. Then you have the exact same transmission that is in the MSP except the Limited Slip Differential. That is the ONLY difference.

If you have a P5 with a build date BEFORE 2/14/2002. Then you have all the weak parts still. You have a different MAIN shaft, 3rd. gear, 4th. gear, all different synchros, different shims, shift selector forks, hubs. etc....

You Cannot buy a Transmission through Mazda with the LSD installed, You would have to buy a P5 transmission and install a LSD into it.

When this information came to light to fellow techs and I it makes total sense. Last year as a shop removed probably 20-30 Protege transmissions, this year we have done 3... and they were all 02' or older.



I hope this helps someone looking for this information
 
lol all us mp3'ers are.... but never fear, I have plans. first I got to source a second tranny.... so it might as well be a 2003 model
 
02.5 mean they have be sent back from the factory with all the upgrades... diffrent cupholders etc. 03s got all the prior plus sub, etc.

its not budwieser i dont theres a born on date.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
I had my parts guys look into the difference between the MSP and P5 transmissions. After tearing mine apart to do the differential I found several differences between this one and other Protege tranny's I have taken apart.
So what was the outcome ?
 
The outcome was I never took a Protege transmission apart that was in a car built after 2/14/02. They are the same as the MSP.

That first post wasn't clear?
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
The outcome was I never took a Protege transmission apart that was in a car built after 2/14/02. They are the same as the MSP.

That first post wasn't clear?
Your differential?
 
except my transmission.

huh?

My differential broke, a couple of times...
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
except my transmission.

huh?

My differential broke, a couple of times...
You said in your first post that you were taking it apart to do your differential. How did that turn out ?
 
oh....lol.

That was over the summer. I broke 2 within 4k miles. The first one I put in I told my service manager it was gonna break (saw a nasty stress crack potential in the casting), so that one was part warrientied.

I asked the parts guys about it yesterday because I got a few pm's from people asking me about the tranny differences.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
oh....lol.

That was over the summer. I broke 2 within 4k miles. The first one I put in I told my service manager it was gonna break (saw a nasty stress crack potential in the casting), so that one was part warrientied.

I asked the parts guys about it yesterday because I got a few pm's from people asking me about the tranny differences.
OK Now I get it. Was hoping to get info on strengthening.
 
oh, lol. man I was confused for a second too.

I can tell you it broke in the same manner as everyone else's. I bet welding as described many times will help alot.
 
I was going to ask this question about the differance in tranis. Now is it the same trany in the LX sedans? That is, is the LX sedan transmition the good one?
 

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