Edelbrock 15033 down pipe
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if i were you i would be thinking of creating a braket to hold all of that just like they did with the stock s-pipe
something to take the weight off the turbo and manifold.
also, replace ALL manifold bolts with STUDS and use stainless steel bolts and washers.
also, replace ALL bolts on the turbo and downpipe with Grade8 Hex bolts or or just grade 8 bolts.
i did it to mine, haven't leaked once after so much abuse at the auto-cross
something to take the weight off the turbo and manifold.
also, replace ALL manifold bolts with STUDS and use stainless steel bolts and washers.
also, replace ALL bolts on the turbo and downpipe with Grade8 Hex bolts or or just grade 8 bolts.
i did it to mine, haven't leaked once after so much abuse at the auto-cross
My exhaust tick has returned. I've had to tighten down the bolts about every 6mos to a year for the last six years now. A few months ago it started up again but sounded a little different, a little raspier maybe. However, I checked the bolts and they were all tight. Oddly, the noise went away and stayed quiet for about a month, and now is back again. I am wondering if my manifold has actually warped slightly, and I need to sand it down as you did.
Not that hard just make sure you have a true flat plate or marble top to check flateness, also you should be able to rest the whole manifold on the sander. To make sure the whole surface is making contact. and dont press to hard just use its natural weight. takes a awhile but it will be true. Good luck.
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tweety2300
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The entire problem with the msp was that the fsde was never made for performance, and Mazda didn't even try to do anything to it other than slap a turbo on and half ass tune. If they would have spent more time with it it could have been much better.
Look at the turbo rx7s they didn't have major issues. Look at the 323's they did them right( bigger rods, low compression pistons, stock internals can make 300whp. And it was made 25 years ago), along with the ms3. So why does the msp suck so much?
Yes you own the car of course your going to defend it, just like Honda people defend hondas, but truth hurts.
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did you not read anything i said?
there is no "problem" with the msp it makes 170hp all day. as designed as intended. as priced. if they built the motor the car would have been much more expensive. you get whay you pay for.
do you have any idea what a rx-7 tt or 323 gtr costed new?
because clowns who dont know s*** about cars have nothing better to do than go on msprotege.com and pretend they know what they r talking about y complaining how a budget low boost car doesnt make 300+whp on stock everything.
what truth? the car is sweet. what do you think was available for the same price range when it was new?
ya the bottom end isnt built for 300+whp. thats really not a defect lol if it was built it would have costed more, and nobody would have bought one. If you want a 300whp speed go buy a built block, there only a few gs.
you certainly have some high expectations. for what it costed the car is great. no its not a skyline gtr, no it didnt cost as much either lol
there is no "problem" with the msp it makes 170hp all day. as designed as intended. as priced. if they built the motor the car would have been much more expensive. you get whay you pay for.
do you have any idea what a rx-7 tt or 323 gtr costed new?
because clowns who dont know s*** about cars have nothing better to do than go on msprotege.com and pretend they know what they r talking about y complaining how a budget low boost car doesnt make 300+whp on stock everything.
what truth? the car is sweet. what do you think was available for the same price range when it was new?
ya the bottom end isnt built for 300+whp. thats really not a defect lol if it was built it would have costed more, and nobody would have bought one. If you want a 300whp speed go buy a built block, there only a few gs.
you certainly have some high expectations. for what it costed the car is great. no its not a skyline gtr, no it didnt cost as much either lol
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tweety2300
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all studs replaced with grade 8 then i used copper nuts.Toyota dealer ship told me about them when i worked on a truck before.
If youre worried about them coming loose or if they do again, look into stage 8. I had a lot of issues with mine backing out and finally ordered them after trying multiple things
Sometimes the truth does hurt. You do not even own the car yet you want some to take your words as some sort of truth. GTFO with that s***. You are like all of the other clowns that have s*** to say and don't know from what you speak. Only your perception, which quite frankly I bet not too many MSP owners give a s*** about and the conclusion which you may have drawn from some internet postings about problems they have experienced. If there were 2875 lemons sitting idle then maybe clowns like you would have a point. I tried my best to ignore you but could not. Hurry up and buy your MS3 so just maybe there will be a great chance that your wisdom will no longer be on display in any more MSP threads.
Spiced MSP
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Here we go with this s*** again, this whole conversation has been beat to death millions of times over the cars existence. Guys, it's 2013 and we are still arguing about the cars performance and downfalls. We all know the car wasn't built for all out power. No, it's not that fast especially stock. Yes, the FSDE wasn't made for performance. Does it take a lot to make power with the car? Yes, why, well look at the baseline power numbers and there is your answer. You guys need to stop comparing this car with other cars that already have a higher baseline than the MSP. It doesn't prove anything. It also doesn't prove anything to compare it to cars with a stock motor that can already handle a lot of power. Yes, the car only has a regular protege engine with a turbo slapped on and a pig rich tune. We all know that. The car is going on 10 years old and you are stating the obvious that has been known since the first person started modding it Im sure. What's next? Gonna start spitting out dyno numbers and comparing platforms and brochure specs? Come on guys, you have all been here long enough to know the car so there is no need to sit here and discuss it over again. If you own a MSP and are complaining about it, either fix the downfalls and make the car better or sell it and GTFO. If you don't have a MSP and are complaining, first off you shouldn't be complaining at all. Second, move along and go lurk around on another section of the forum that pertains to your specific car. If you want to make decent power with the car, spend the money to do it right. If not, then be happy with the power you do have. Some people are happy with the power their car has with just minor bolt ons. Any car can be made fast with something called money. Look at the numerous builds on the forum. They know what needed to be done to make good power with the car and do you hear them complaining? NO YOU DON'T. Hell, most sport compacts are not meant for performance at all. But you see people build them all the time and some putting out 500+ to the wheels.
Ive noticed during my time on the forum that it is always the guys that either don't have a MSP, or had one and did a couple of mods and said the car was slow and gave up. Or they had a lot of mods but half assed everything and either didn't have a good tune or didn't have any sort of EMS at all that bash the car. There have also been a handful that actually built the motor for more boost, but didn't add other supporting mods and call the car slow. It's the people that don't think about things when it comes to modding the car. If you aren't going to build it right, then don't build it at all. Overall, If you complain about the cars performance, it's your own fault because you didn't do anything to fix it. Better yet, just GTFO the forum and get a new car. I know me personally will be in the "built, not bought" category pretty soon and will be proud of it. Why? because I would have built my car to a level that only a handful of members have reached. Now you are probably going to say: why spend all that money building the car? It's just a protege. Well, why do any car enthusiasts dump thousands into their cars? With all of this being said, quit complaining about the car and spend the money to make the problem areas better. If you think it's a waste, you should NOT be a car enthusiast. If you are going to complain and not do anything about it, then you don't need a car. That's like me complaining about a toothache but never going to the dentist. You all know what needs to be done to make whatever power goals you want. It's up to you to take the required steps or just sit back and continue to bash the car because you are too lazy . Im done here.
Ive noticed during my time on the forum that it is always the guys that either don't have a MSP, or had one and did a couple of mods and said the car was slow and gave up. Or they had a lot of mods but half assed everything and either didn't have a good tune or didn't have any sort of EMS at all that bash the car. There have also been a handful that actually built the motor for more boost, but didn't add other supporting mods and call the car slow. It's the people that don't think about things when it comes to modding the car. If you aren't going to build it right, then don't build it at all. Overall, If you complain about the cars performance, it's your own fault because you didn't do anything to fix it. Better yet, just GTFO the forum and get a new car. I know me personally will be in the "built, not bought" category pretty soon and will be proud of it. Why? because I would have built my car to a level that only a handful of members have reached. Now you are probably going to say: why spend all that money building the car? It's just a protege. Well, why do any car enthusiasts dump thousands into their cars? With all of this being said, quit complaining about the car and spend the money to make the problem areas better. If you think it's a waste, you should NOT be a car enthusiast. If you are going to complain and not do anything about it, then you don't need a car. That's like me complaining about a toothache but never going to the dentist. You all know what needs to be done to make whatever power goals you want. It's up to you to take the required steps or just sit back and continue to bash the car because you are too lazy . Im done here.
tweety2300
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I own an mp3 same ******* thing besides turbo and the worthless LSD. I'm not sure how I have no idea of the issues when I've had just about every bad thing that can happen to an fsde happen.
I'm so sorry that I point out known weaknesses of the msp. Ill go hide in a hole so that you can imagine that your car is great and has no issues and will last for ever, have fun with that
bikingpro5
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done, too bad it got this out of hand.
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