EBC brake pads for MP3/P5?01+ ES

[Installshield 2]

Alright men, any of you pissed that EBC does not make brake pads for MP3's/P5's/01+ ES's read on...(and some of you 01+ DX/LX owners should check this out too)

I am in the beginning stages of blending as much info I can between this board and us "other" guys (Pclub members)

here is the link...

http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29380

That thread has all the info you need...

 

[snowman4us]

hell yeah im pissed....i had those brakes opn my last car and they kick some major ASS, i want them on m car!!! the MP5 pads can suck a nut!

 

[BlueMP5Dave]

Auto RND has some high performance pads if you are interested please PM. They are made by Porterfield they are $145. Also has rotors and ss lines. Or you can just post here http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27959

 

[changedman]

EBC really that good? what about brake dust?

 

[Installshield 2]

I have white wheels, so dust was a major concern...With the greenstuff pads dust is not that bad. EBC claims "dustless" operation but that is a gimmick...They still create significant dust, but no worse than the stock pads...The performance of them is the best part though. They resist fade so well you will swear you have a set of 13" brembo's inside your wheels...Not bad for $80..

 

[snowman4us]

on my last car(subaru impreza) i had those pads and i was chasing an S2K when i got to the bottom i had no brake fade but my roters where about to glow red...and my pads where about to catch fire(they where smoking)...the best brake pads u can get w/o having to go to track, next to endless of course!

 

[iON Performance]

FYI, STAY AWAY FROM EBC GREENS. We known of too many warped rotor cases caused by EBC

 

[Installshield 2]

And how is that?? I have used them on every car I have ever owned and never had a single warped rotor. I have had to replace rotors before yes, but only becuase they were beyond their service limit. You are confusing a "warped" rotor with an improper bed in period that results in burned pad material depositing unevenly on the rotor surface (FWIW this is usually what happens anyway, rotors rarely warp if installed properly with proper torque specs on the wheel lugs)...EBC greens have a small carbon (organic) content to keep dust down. But this also makes them very easy to break in improperly and the result is the latter...

I am trying not to be a dick, but I would bet a new set of EBC's that the rotors you claim where warped by EBC Green either A: were victims of "runout" becuase of an improper installation of the rotor itself...or B: not warped at all, just had carbon deposits burned all over them.

 

[BlueMP5Dave]

Thats good info thanks, I was curious if these would have any adverse affects on the stock rotors. I guess this is where experience counts and of course proper installation.

 

[Reitrof]

So hwo can we get EBC to make some pads for the P's?

 

[dmitrik4]

there are other comapnies that make pads...Hawk, for one. i've heard very good and very bad things about the EBCs.

 

[iON Performance]

Installshield 2 - so far we've heard nothing about complaints that local customers have had about EBC pads. They aren't cheap either.

There's lots of better pads out there available, and for cheaper too.

Those who've complained about warped rotors really did have them warped. Not C deposits or anything.

 

[Installshield 2]

So hwo can we get EBC to make some pads for the P's?

Read the thread that is linked in the first post...

In short just order EBC pads (green-street, red-AutoX) for a 93-97 Ford Probe GT, Mazda MX-6 LS, or a 93-98 Mazda 626 V6...They all have the same brakes as a MP3, P5, and '01+ ES Protege...This does not apply to MSP's or ANY pre-01 3rd gen protege, but some of you LX/DX 01+ owners can get the pads for the front brakes...You guys have ES front brakes with 9"drums in back from what I remember...

Make sure you check that link to get all of the info...

 

[Installshield 2]

Installshield 2 - so far we've heard nothing about complaints that local customers have had about EBC pads. They aren't cheap either.

There's lots of better pads out there available, and for cheaper too.

Those who've complained about warped rotors really did have them warped. Not C deposits or anything.

Please explain this...How can a high performance brake pad capable of absorbing almost double the heat of the stock pad in turn warp a rotor? Since the pad absorbs tons of heat, that heat is prevented from being absorbed by the rotor itself...The only argument I have ever heard about pads such as EBC is that they score the rotor surface becuase of their high friction content, and lead to not performing as well after a couple of hard races...This is also untrue on a light weight cars like ours. I used these on an E-46 M3 (400lbs heavier than a P5, with much more powerful brakes) for a number of pad changes, and they did tear up the rotor a little after 60,000 miles...but I don't know how bad the stock ones would have, so it may have been just normal rotor wear...

A brake pad that keeps heat from the rotor will not warp it. Again if the customer complained that the rotor was warped ,it was caused by something else, not the EBC's. I have never once experienced a warped rotor caused by using EBC Greens or even REDs...The cars ranged from an M3, Probe GT, Neon ACR, and a P5...each car had EBC's without one single problem other than pad life being a little short on some applications (M3)...No damaged warped, or adversely effected rotors in anyway...A lot of people I know have used them as well without a single problem...

I do not own stock in EBC, I am not trying to sell anything...I am just trying to point out that the people you talked to had rotor problems not caused by the pads....something else happened and the pads recieved the blame...I have used Hawk pads (I think HPS's, whatever the street ones are) and they are good for the money, but comparing to the EBC greens is like the difference between our stock Dunlop's and a new set of Bridgestone S-03's...

 

[mp3moose]

I went with the porterfields myself. Hope they aren't crap.
Moose

 

[azeli73]

Is this the same thing?

http://www.rmrace.com/protege/brakes5.htm

 

[Installshield 2]

yeah those are the EBC's, last time I checked EBC did not make them for any 3rd gen protege...maybe now they do...or that place realized what I did, and they are just pads from other mazda cars that will fit ours...

 

[snowman4us]

in my subaru they actualy warped the stock roters becouse of the EBC...but subarus are know to have extremely SHITY stock roters that dont displace heat that well.