Matthew (with two t's) there was a small gain for sure , the variable was better weather today ,than the last dyno , was raining and lots more humidity and hot today was cool low humidity,obviously not the best comparison, because the car was not dynoed , then the wires installed then dynoed again. Actual increase was 9.5whp , As you know tuners can play with the #'s by putting in adjustments for many variables . My turner does not play games with these #'s and is very up front about what his dyno prints out. He felt for sure there was a small gain. What I like most about the wires is the relocation of the coils and much improved look. Also have tracked mpg last 2 weeks about 25 more miles per tank ,just under 2 mpg better. Thanks Frank