Dyno questions.

mazdasp33d

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Mazdaspeed 3
What would be the best way to get the biggest number out of a dyno pull?

3rd or 4th gear? and what rpms?

i have never done a dyno pull before and the last thing i want to do is something wrong lol.
 
I've seen people do runs in 3rd and 4th on this vehicle, which I believe are identical in numbers, but I'm not sure.
 
All my runs I have done in 4th gear, that's the most common one that I've heard of people using.
 
you will get better number in 4th gear. Last time I went I did 1 3rd gear pull and 2 4th gear pulls and got better numbers in 4th.
 
I think most of the people do 4th gear pulls. If you want biggest numbers go on a dynojet dyno, they seem to produce higher numbers then mustang dynos.
 
Who cares about 'big dyno numbers'? Are you getting a dyno done to have a sheet of paper you can show off to your friends? Does what your car does in a completely controlled environment even matter?

If you're doing dyno runs it should be to help track the improvements of your car as you mod it, and to help tune it if you're going that route. The numbers you ultimately put up are irrelevant. Every dyno is going to give you different numbers, some being more generous or more realistic than others depending on how they are set up for your particular car. The important part of the entire process is to make sure you use the same dyno with the same setup every time you make runs, so you can accurately track your gains.

What does the degree of inflation of the numbers matter save for your ego?
 
No, not really. I just don't see the point of dropping coin on a dyno run if your goal is to get numbers as inflated as possible. "What dyno can I run on that will read as high as possible," is sort of a crazy question to ask.

If you're doing dyno runs you have to understand that the numbers you get are a product of the type of dyno, software correction for temperature, air pressure, altitude, humidity, drive ratio of the gear you are running, etc etc etc. You can muck around with a lot of stuff to tweak numbers, if that's your thing. But why would that be your thing? If you're starting to dyno your car you want to baseline in as controlled an environment as you can so that next time you come in after you've slapped a CAI and a catback on your ride, you can compare your gains to your own car under similar conditions. It doesn't matter if your baseline was 210, 225, or 240 HP, what matters is the percentage increase in power you see from your baseline to your modded run.

Picking a place to start doing dyno tuning, things like the reputation and the experience should matter more than the dyno they use (unless you're trying to find a shop with the same dyno you've used before for previous tunings or baselines). The 210 HP Mustang dynoed stock Mazdaspeed3 and the 240HP Dynojet dynoed stock Mazdaspeed3 are probably capable of running within a 1/10th of each other on any given track, but there's a 15% difference in reported HP because of the dyno used. The reported number is meaningless on its own.
 
Its not about my ego buddy. With the mods i have i would like to see what power i can make. i have never have been on a dyno alone before and i was wondering what gear other ms3 owners used in their pulls.
 
Again, it's not about numbers. If you already have a baseline for your car, go back to the same shop and use the same software corrections on the same dyno and run in the same gear to see what sort of gains you've made. You could baseline on a Mustang, drop some mods and then run on a Dynojet with different compensations for weather humidity altitude and gearing and see a 25% power increase when in reality you've only seen 10 or 12% improvement, just because of the dyno and how its set up for your run.

How is that sort of inflated improvement valuable to someone trying to improve their ride?
 
What kind of shop allows an owner to operate the car on their machinery anyway?

Pulls should be made in a 1:1 gear or whichever is closest for truest power output. Unless you are tuning, and it better be a load bearing dyno, the numbers you get will be pretty useless. Take it to a track for some real bragging rights.
 
Then technically we should be doing our runs in 5th gear. 4th gear's ratio is: 1.171:1 and 5th gear's is: 1.085:1.
 
I vaguely remember an argument on here about that, and someone brought up that because of the final drive changes between 4th and 5th it's better to run it in 4th. Plus, again, the software on most good dynos will allow you to account for gear ratio. Just make sure you keep doing it in the same gear.
 
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