Dawn and Dusk driving with no tail lights

Everybody had tail lights on and then this guy... My fellow CX-5 driver put us to shame.

 
Someone send that person a link to this thread...

And a link to the stalk unlock guide so they have to turn their lights on manually.
 
Unnecessary driving in the left lane (more than 10 seconds) can get you a fine in the Netherlands (€280 = US$305), while overtaking on the right is penalized even more heavily (€310 = US$338).
 
Oh yes, it certainly is. If cops would enforce "slower traffic keep right" more often I believe road rage could be reduced significantly. People just don't seem to get the memo (especially in today's me, me, me world) that if you are driving slower than the car behind you and have room to yield, you need to get over (whether you are driving the speed limit, or not).
 
Unnecessary driving in the left lane (more than 10 seconds) can get you a fine in the Netherlands (€280 = US$305), while overtaking on the right is penalized even more heavily (€310 = US$338).
Ironic to me the fine is higher for passing on the right when the cause of passing on the right is fined less...
 
Everybody had tail lights on and then this guy... My fellow CX-5 driver put us to shame.

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I see cars with headlights/taillights off every f'ing day here in NY.
And when I try to tell them by flicking my high beams, most don't notice or have no clue why they're getting high beamed.

And don't forget the rain. Auto headlights usually don't come on for me. I also don't have rain sensing wipers set to auto - never liked this feature on any cars - just too finicky, either too long or goes absolutely berserk crazy fast.
 
Someone send that person a link to this thread...

And a link to the stalk unlock guide so they have to turn their lights on manually.
The main thing is that people can be idiots .. they do all kinds of things because we have so many freedoms and let little kids.. grammas' etc, but they have to because there aren't many busses, etc.
My dad used to say they were getting out of formation all the time.
 
If cops would enforce "slower traffic keep right" more often I believe road rage could be reduced significantly. People just don't seem to get the memo (especially in today's me, me, me world)
I could frame your comment - "all about me" - from the perspective of impatient drivers tailgating, trying to pass, exactly the same.


that if you are driving slower than the car behind you and have room to yield, you need to get over (whether you are driving the speed limit, or not).

One one hand, if a driver has space to move to the right lane without tailgating the car in front or being tailgated themselves, by all means! They should move over and keep the left lane uncongested.

If they can't, that driver has every right to maintain a safe following distance in the passing lane at whichever speed they choose, without being tailgated by ("me, me, me...") drivers behind them.

TLDR. If I don't have space to maintain a safe following distance in the middle or right lane, I'm not moving over until I do.
 
I could frame your comment - "all about me" - from the perspective of impatient drivers tailgating, trying to pass, exactly the same.




One one hand, if a driver has space to move to the right lane without tailgating the car in front or being tailgated themselves, by all means! They should move over and keep the left lane uncongested.

If they can't, that driver has every right to maintain a safe following distance in the passing lane at whichever speed they choose, without being tailgated by ("me, me, me...") drivers behind them.

TLDR. If I don't have space to maintain a safe following distance in the middle or right lane, I'm not moving over until I do.
I agree with all of this but the difference when compared the general public, you're much more aware as a driver.
But there are some serious clueless drivers out there chugging along slowly in the left lane when there's a whole line of cars behind them. I'm sure you've seen all 3 lanes going the exact same speed and no one can get around when there's plenty of free road ahead without much traffic.
 
But there are some serious clueless drivers out there chugging along slowly in the left lane when there's a whole line of cars behind them.
Realistically, the best thing you can do upon encountering such a driver is try your best to be patient and pass when it is safe to do so. We are not the police. We cannot control who we encounter on the road, or how they drive. The best thing we can do is control our own behavior and drive as safely as possible.

When someone is impatiently tailgating a slow driver in the left lane, when there is space for them to move, I see two drivers who need to either change their habits or be removed from the roads all together.


I'm sure you've seen all 3 lanes going the exact same speed and no one can get around when there's plenty of free road ahead without much traffic.

In my personal experience, the major three lane highway which I encounter, I usually drive faster than the people in the right or middle lane, so I use the left lane often as it's typically less congested. But I don't drive as fast as most other left-lane users. This puts me in an awkward situation when there is traffic in all three lanes, and I am in the left lane maintaining a generous following distance from the car in front. I have people behind tailgating me. I can't move over. They will usually do whatever they can to get ahead of me, but there isn't much more space up ahead. Once they do get ahead, they are simply contributing to the tailgating congestion nonsense up ahead and I have to adjust my following distance appropriately.

I am already going fast enough. I won't drive faster. I won't get any closer to the car in front. If I can move over, I will. I feel my logic here is justified and I deserve to not have "me, me me..." tailgating from behind.

But they will, and I learned to simply ignore it and drive the way I deem is appropriate in that scenario.

I am only 26 years old. I evolved from one of the most aggressive drivers on the road to one of the most conservative. I have my moments, but my priority is to be safe and use as little gas as possible to get where I need to go.
 
Realistically, the best thing you can do upon encountering such a driver is try your best to be patient and pass when it is safe to do so. We are not the police. We cannot control who we encounter on the road, or how they drive. The best thing we can do is control our own behavior and drive as safely as possible.

When someone is impatiently tailgating a slow driver in the left lane, when there is space for them to move, I see two drivers who need to either change their habits or be removed from the roads all together.




In my personal experience, the major three lane highway which I encounter, I usually drive faster than the people in the right or middle lane, so I use the left lane often as it's typically less congested. But I don't drive as fast as most other left-lane users. This puts me in an awkward situation when there is traffic in all three lanes, and I am in the left lane maintaining a generous following distance from the car in front. I have people behind tailgating me. I can't move over. They will usually do whatever they can to get ahead of me, but there isn't much more space up ahead. Once they do get ahead, they are simply contributing to the tailgating congestion nonsense up ahead and I have to adjust my following distance appropriately.

I am already going fast enough. I won't drive faster. I won't get any closer to the car in front. If I can move over, I will. I feel my logic here is justified and I deserve to not have "me, me me..." tailgating from behind.

But they will, and I learned to simply ignore it and drive the way I deem is appropriate in that scenario.

I am only 26 years old. I evolved from one of the most aggressive drivers on the road to one of the most conservative. I have my moments, but my priority is to be safe and use as little gas as possible to get where I need to go.
I'm in agreement here. I'm usually never the fastest car on the road and more often than not, not even the 2nd or 3rd fastest. Like you, I will most often move out of the left lane as soon as it's feasible. But I will not slow down or speed up as long as I'm traveling faster than the middle lane. Speed isn't my prerogative.

Glad to hear a younger driver practicing your driving habits. (y) I'm nearly twice your age and I've done my fair share of aggressive driving. Honestly, seeing how others drive over the years, it tells me that collective driving skills have gone way down over the past few decades. I just don't trust others on the road and would rather steer clear if possible.
 
I guess depends where one lives.
some highway in the past few years are hell like this and there is no escape. Some people driving culture is eroding fast nowadays.

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The other night 11pm I see a large new and dark suv at 65mph with no lights on a 3 lane city highway.
Of course only the DRL.

Tried to go behind and flash him then went next to him and signaled him that he doesnt have lights . He thought I was crazy or trying to bully him or something. He started flashing me miltiple when I got in front.
 
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Nowadays, being careful in traffic doesn’t just mean avoiding accidents—it means avoiding the kind of people who treat a flash signal as a personal insult and are ready to throw punches at the next red light...
 
I will most often move out of the left lane as soon as it's feasible. But I will not slow down or speed up as long as I'm traveling faster than the middle lane. Speed isn't my prerogative.

100% likewise.
 
Nowadays, being careful in traffic doesn’t just mean avoiding accidents—it means avoiding the kind of people who treat a flash signal as a personal insult and are ready to throw punches at the next red light...
Yea because people are dense and don't understand that these are for communication.
On my commute, please treat the shoulder like it's the 4th lane. There's 0 enforcement and if I don't let them in, it's somehow my fault and I get the finger.
 
I realize this is dangerously close to being on topic, but my daughter who is a young driver would frequently drive with DRLs only on. I think in her 2020 this is with the stalk switch in OFF. She gets DRLs, she sees headlights, and she sees dash lights. So good to go, right? Scared the hell out of me as a parent. The "fix" for her was to just leave her lights on 100% of the time. Old me was freaked about battery drain but they turn off after you lock the car. So, I'd duct tape the stalk if I thought I could get away with it.
 
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I always set the headlights to auto - except during rain or snow in the daytime.
This also helps avoid driving in the dark with only the DRLs on.
 

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