CustomMSP SMIC fitment sucks.

[Velocifero]

for the most part the customMSP is a direct swap. and the modifications are so minor that i didn't cosider them modifications. you bend a piece of sheet metal with some plyers and you bolt a fan on crooked. thats it. otherwise it's fine. i love mine. makes great power. boost comes on sooner, stays longer, and pulls harder. my best mod yet!

there's a pretty good description from January

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96028&page=6&pp=15
great thread

for the performance and price definetly get CustomMSP SMIC.
it's the cheapest, and i believe it will give the most gain.
plus it utilizes the space most effectively.
the piece that has to be bent will not be visible from any angle once the IC is in place.
with all the work it took to install customMSP SMIC it was still 10 times easier than installing a HiBoost FMIC kit......i'm not even talking about ION.
P.S. for the fans to sit more or less straight we used spacers on the right-side bolt.

there's another, check the p.s. at the end

 

[girth]

Ummmm...no...moderators don't see any of those fees. And neither do the administrators....those fees are REQUIRED to PAY for the site to operate.

The problem with this thread is the fact that the issue was not attempted to be resolved privately first. That is all. Why can't some people understand that? If he made his complaint privately, and nothing was done, then yes, by all means, post away. But people just can't go around making threads called 'this product sucks' before doing so.

No, this thread is good because it gives POTENTIAL BUYERS a chance to see the vendor's customer service in action and allows those buyers to make their own judgement. CustomMSP came in here and handled this customer complaint beautfully IMO. So if anything this thread is a good thing for him, not a bad thing. The people that cry about vendor bashing need to realize this.

 

[jurgs01]

Absolutely. CustomMSP handled the situation beautifully. That's how a vendor earns respect and business. I have seen a few other vendors throw a fit when the same type of situation has happened. Shows class and character when situations are handled well.

 

[MSP#735]

i went with the circuit sport smic, fitment on mine is PERFCET!! just alittle FYI from a happy customer.

 

[Orlandoech]

i just wanna say....

CustomMSP......... I LOVE YOUR I/C!!!

Mine fits like that too, everyone's does. Its how they made them. It performs AWESOME who cares, it fits, it works and NO ONE sees the damn I/C so shut up.

Research before u buy...

 

[ricenudles]

hey this is a little off topic, but i keep reading this "awesome power gain with heatsoak being nonexistent." Honestly, I'm not really feeling this great gain, and i still feel heatsoak (just goes away faster). perhaps I'm just expecting too much?

Don't get me wrong, i love this upgraded IC and with hardpipes (get the hardpipes if you're planning to upgrade an IC). I think it was worth every penny i spent. great quality, awesome customer service. I mean, look how CustonMSP handled this thread.

But let me know how realistic this "great gain in power" really is. Heatsoak is very much there, but it goes away pretty quickly. my conception of heatsoak is that it is inevitable with any intercooler, regardless of whether it is a FMIC or a SMIC - it's just a matter of time. let me know!

 

[CustomMSP]

Heat soak is there while driving hard or while in traffic situation?

Thanks.

 

[spicynamja]

Of course the heatsoak is still "there" but I drive it like a madman on a hot day and with the stocker it took what felt like an hour before I had any power at all. With customs SMIC the heatsoak is there, but the power is not sucked away from the car completely, moreover, it only takes a bout 2 mins for the intercooler to cool down completely. Helps if you turn on the heat at full blast in the car.
"Great power gain" No, not GREAT, but there is a significant power gain. It runs smoother. The SMIC is what makes the MSP what it should have been off the factory line.

 

[ricenudles]

I have a 30-40 mile commute, mostly freeway, to school. heat soak isnt BAD but it is there, which i'm not complaining about. I just want to ask why some people claim that heatsoak was gone evern after driving really ridiculously hard.

spicy - thats very true. It takes so much less time cooling down the IC. All that 17whp stuff should be closer to 5-10 whp

 

[spacemonkey]

it doesnt sit flush I knew this fromt he begining. Vamp told me had to bang it in to get it to fit. But I think the gaines are better then turbohose. but Turbo hose is a better fit.

 

[mazdaowner123]

I have a 30-40 mile commute, mostly freeway, to school. heat soak isnt BAD but it is there, which i'm not complaining about. I just want to ask why some people claim that heatsoak was gone evern after driving really ridiculously hard.

spicy - thats very true. It takes so much less time cooling down the IC. All that 17whp stuff should be closer to 5-10 whp

What mods do you have? Thanks,

~brian

 

[spicynamja]

I do have to point out that Turbohoses posts a .5 pressure drop and Customs posts a 1.1 So everyone here who says the gains are the same are a little off base. People sat here and yelled at me to do the research but everyone here is saying that Turbhoses "might" be "just as good" when the pressure drop is actually better. Either way, its not a difference that you would notice if you drove both cars side to side, as ArrestYellowMSP says, its exactly the same as far as driver feel.

 

[CustomMSP]

I do have to point out that Turbohoses posts a .5 pressure drop and Customs posts a 1.1 So everyone here who says the gains are the same are a little off base. People sat here and yelled at me to do the research but everyone here is saying that Turbhoses "might" be "just as good" when the pressure drop is actually better. Either way, its not a difference that you would notice if you drove both cars side to side, as ArrestYellowMSP says, its exactly the same as far as driver feel.

Yeah it's 1.1psi at an airflow that would equal to about 260hp, so that's about 15psi on the stock t25 turbo. I don't think TH ever mentioned at how much airflow that .5psi drop is. Furthermore, those 17whp were actually dynoed my friend

However, that's your opinion and I respect that I have heatsoak even with my FMIC in 60 and above deg weather.

Keep those concerns/comments coming!

Thanks.

 

[Vampyre]

i didnt have to it in, i had to slightly modify a metal pieice of the body that comes out beside the stock ic. if that means hit the hell out of it with a hammer, exactly what i did, but it but only a little. i like houw big customs is. i really didnt want to do a fmic

 

[Vampyre]

oh and i dont care about the fan fitment. new about that b4 hand, but it did make one of the biggest differences in how my car drives

 

[CustomMSP]

it doesnt sit flush I knew this fromt he begining. Vamp told me had to bang it in to get it to fit. But I think the gaines are better then turbohose. but Turbo hose is a better fit.

Its better to bend that piece next to the headlight a little so it doesn't rub agains the IC causing any future problems.

 

[ricenudles]

What mods do you have? Thanks,

~brian

jus custom's smic and hardpipes.

Yeah it's 1.1psi at an airflow that would equal to about 260hp, so that's about 15psi on the stock t25 turbo. I don't think TH ever mentioned at how much airflow that .5psi drop is. Furthermore, those 17whp were actually dynoed my friend

BTW, I'm not talking about your dyno sheets. I'm talking about turbohoses dynosheet where they show 142whp to like 159whp or something for a stock MSP. But honestly, when was the last time you saw a STOCK msp, boosting 6.5psi, dynoing 142 to the wheels unless its already heatsoaked or something (im assuming dynojet)??? I'm not knocking on their products (i love their hardpipes) or their crediblity (they make quality pieces), but most of the dynosheets I've seen show 148~155 whp as stock.

As for your dyno sheet, it's very believable because of the mods listed on that dyno. either way, your smic is great and I'm happy with it. I just think some comments waayy hyped it up too much for me.

 

[CustomMSP]

I understand completely. You probably know that a good A/M DP will greatly reduce the temp. of the compressed air coming out of the turbo.

 

[spicynamja]

I've gotta admit, the Custom SMIC core is huge. That is definitely the largest possible core that could fit in its place. I'm going to go to a hardware store and buy some washers to make the fan sit more flush one of these days.

 

[jersey_emt]

No, this thread is good because it gives POTENTIAL BUYERS a chance to see the vendor's customer service in action and allows those buyers to make their own judgement. CustomMSP came in here and handled this customer complaint beautfully IMO. So if anything this thread is a good thing for him, not a bad thing. The people that cry about vendor bashing need to realize this.

Yes, this is why this thread is still here, unaltered. I just don't like the title of it, but I'm keeping it for exactly the reasons you mentioned.