Confused about Engine mangement systems

[orangezoom]

$2150.00 WOW hope it turns out great man. You getting fuel pump and injectors?

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

With the AEM I won't need it, Now when I get the T4 turbo,manafold and internals yes I'm going to need injectors and fuel pump.

 

[orangezoom]

Why wont you need it? I can control my injectors also and they where maxed out from the factory. You will see. If you want to up your boost at all safely you will need injectors, I know Andy will find that out.
That is nice having the AEM, a lot of programing, how far along is he?

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

He's pushing the boost up to 14 safely. Andy is almost done he's just keeping it till he can dyno it at his shop. He had the car for awhile now and I miss her! I'm just counting down the days.

 

[orangezoom]

Let me show you this is the dyno witht the emanage controlling injectors and if you look at the dyno I had a FMU on the car. I took that off now.

 

[orangezoom]

14psi!!! the dyno you see there is about 8.5psi so I do not understand how he can put yours at 14, but I do not know everything that is for sure. I do wish you luck

 

[spacemonkey]

o cool that will be nice but that is really expensive isn't it? $1500.00

Yup, but I say its worth it...its a full standalone. I would get it but im not interested in makeing crazy HP #s. Its also the most user friendly standalone...it has a "self-tunning" fuinction...basically if you have a ugeo wide band O2 you can set basic parameters drive the car around and the unit will self tune. The interface is pretty simple that I think just about anywhere can dyno tune it. I know emanage is cheap but once you find a authorize greddy tunner it might be costly. Plus there are alot more stuff you can add on like map sensors and etc. If I had forged internals this would be my choice on standalone. And yeah its not supported by AEM...AEM gave permission to Wagner to develop a PnP harness...which isnt just the harness in his package. Theres some other things you have to add on to control the timming...cuz it doesnt piggyback the factory ECU. Which is why its so expensive...but cheaper then Microtech or Moetech...

 

[Bigg Tim]

I am definetly going with the MPI but I have questions about it that know one has answered.
can I tune with a apple laptop?
is there some pics of whats involved?
cost?
where can I get it?What options can I purches with it (ie,new maf,injectors)or do I have to find these else where?
can I switch between MAP's while driving w/out a laptop?


just a few

No Apple, unless you have the windows emulator, but even then I do not know. It is a windows based SW.

PM MPNick to get details. He has xtra injectors, bigger MAF's and plenty of maps out there.

You can switch between maps by just flicking a toggle switch, but it is recommended to do it at a stop. If you are going to a bigger boost map, you would need to adjust your boost yourself when changing to another map. The MPI doesn't control boost when it changes maps.

Here's a pic of the SW, you can see there are different tabs for different settings, like xtra injectors and timing.

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

Aem

Yup, but I say its worth it...its a full standalone. I would get it but im not interested in makeing crazy HP #s. Its also the most user friendly standalone...it has a "self-tunning" fuinction...basically if you have a ugeo wide band O2 you can set basic parameters drive the car around and the unit will self tune. The interface is pretty simple that I think just about anywhere can dyno tune it. I know emanage is cheap but once you find a authorize greddy tunner it might be costly. Plus there are alot more stuff you can add on like map sensors and etc. If I had forged internals this would be my choice on standalone. And yeah its not supported by AEM...AEM gave permission to Wagner to develop a PnP harness...which isnt just the harness in his package. Theres some other things you have to add on to control the timming...cuz it doesnt piggyback the factory ECU. Which is why its so expensive...but cheaper then Microtech or Moetech...

Your right in most things but it does piggy back with the factory ECU the AEM doesn't work the air con. and others, just timing, air and fuel. There is a sensor that gets installed on the cam gears that reads the timing. This is just what Andy was tell me but things might have changed.

 

[orangezoom]

If I am not mistaken the AEM is full standalone, that is why it is nice it controls everything. That is why it is difficult to program you have to program everything.

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

Aem

If I am not mistaken the AEM is full standalone, that is why it is nice it controls everything. That is why it is difficult to program you have to program everything.

I'll call Andy tom. just to clarify that incase anyone is interested in one.

 

[orangezoom]

Can I ask why you are going witht the T4

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

By this time next year I want to be pushing 350hp.

 

[spacemonkey]

Your right in most things but it does piggy back with the factory ECU the AEM doesn't work the air con. and others, just timing, air and fuel. There is a sensor that gets installed on the cam gears that reads the timing. This is just what Andy was tell me but things might have changed.

Yeah thats right...but the AEM unit supported by AEM has a bunch of goodies...it can actually compensate for the A/C and others (I think from there website). I jus tthink the one develop by nick is the most basic setup...hopefully he'll unlock the full power of the AEM unit. Yeah I suppose it does rides the Factory ECU thats why its called a EMU instead of a stanalone? I guess thats they reason why its fairly cheap. Its still a quality EMU system....Im def considering it.

AEM has a forum and you can def ask them question if you want to know more about the AEM unit.

 

[1FASTMSP]

AEM can run in standalone or parallel mode...