Complete turbo kit for $150!

[AustinG]

im not shitting anybody here because all of ya are my favorite terd, but i went out last night to the local hang out on valley mills. I guy pull up revving his engine, so me and a couple of buddies asked what he had under that hood,(it was a 98 cavalier)
he said turbo, so we had to look, i mean it was kind of funny because we didnt hear no blow off valve or anything you would hear on a regular turbo, well he pops open the hood,and what do you know, he has the hair dryer, we started to joke with the guy and asked him how much Hp he gained he said about 80 hp to the wheels, "cause the motor of the dryer is super fast".
It was sad, i think the guy was retarded or something, but it made my night

80 WHP Ass Dyno Tested

 

[Darin]

I think we should organize 200ppl to flood his email with thoughts like "You are going to hell for lying to people who don't know any better - your 'turbo' if a fake, and you are evil"

 

[FrigginGLI]

So what if I put one with the 3 different speed settings. Will I get low, medium and high boost?

 

[Matthew]

not a bad idea darin, did you go first

 

[MalkavianMP3]

actually, those I just finished an HVAC class at my trade school(automotive) and those blower motors can move 200-300 cfm. it's called a squirrel cage fan(looks like a paddlewheel off a steamboat). There are like 150 blades on it. take one out of a car a junk yard, put it in a vice and connect some power to it from a car battery. See how much air it moves. It's funny to see people with them, I know, but at least it would work a hellova better then those electric superchargers.

 

[Mike R]

So what if I put one with the 3 different speed settings. Will I get low, medium and high boost?

why 3, you could just put a variable resistor and have infinite adjustment!

As for the flooding emails, Turboford.org does it all the time to those guys, so go for it! heck they email the bidders too!

 

[Darin]

actually, those I just finished an HVAC class at my trade school(automotive) and those blower motors can move 200-300 cfm. it's called a squirrel cage fan(looks like a paddlewheel off a steamboat). There are like 150 blades on it. take one out of a car a junk yard, put it in a vice and connect some power to it from a car battery. See how much air it moves. It's funny to see people with them, I know, but at least it would work a hellova better then those electric superchargers.

They won't work - period... My STOCK 1.6L moves about 200cfm thru the air meter. This thing would only BLOCK the patch, then re-isssue that SAME amount of air to my engine. It's NOT providing postitive pressure...it's NOT providing MORE air than the motor can suck in anyway.

It would require so much electrical power to drive one to produce any meaningful boost at any reasonable RPM that the alternator would put so much drag on the engine that you'd eat up all the power you just created.

Off the miata forums..

A few things about engines. First of all, no known engine is 100% efficient. Secondly, everytime you transfer energy from one form to another it is less than 100% transfer (usually far less). For instance, an alternator or generator transfers mechanical energy into electrical energy. Whereas, an electric motor does the reverse. These examples are your most efficient energy transfer rates, approaching over 90%. An internal combustion engine is far less efficient. It transfers thermal energy into mechanical energy. On modern day cars you are looking at less than 40% efficiency tops. Diesel engines do a little bit better. The point of all this? When designing a powerplant you want to minimize the number of energy conversions to maximize the overall efficiency. Why? Because everytime the energy undergoes a conversion there goes a sizable chunk of power (usually in the form of heat).

What I am getting at you will probably harness more power from a leafblower if you take the engine used to drive it and attach it directly to your car engine's crankshaft ( ). At least that way you have straight mechanical energy continuity. It doesn't make sense to use the leafblower to push air into the car engine which in turn will generate more power because the leaf blower engine is probably less than 40% efficient. Whereas a supercharger (not talking about thermal efficiency but simply the effiency in driving it) is over 90% efficient (efficiency of belt drives). The turbocharger is even more efficient because it is actually recouping some of the heat energy that would normally be lost by the engine.

Now the idea of using an electric motor to drive a supercharger has merit because the electric motor has over 90% efficiency just like the pulley setup when driven by the engine. But as alluded to before this requires a much heftier (heavier) electrical system. The hp (or should I say wattage) demand of an electric motor running a supercharger that would say supply 6psi boost on a 1.8L 4-stroke engine would be much, much higher than the current wattage demand of all of the other electrical accessories currently used. Not that it couldn't be done, but I am thinking that at that point going to a completely electric powered vehicle would be just as feasible.

This leads me to a final point. Ever give thought to the energy source (fuel source?). Why do we concentrate so hard on passing more oxygen (or air) through our engines so that we can combust more gasoline per unit time (the assumed fuel), thus increasing power? How about using a fuel source that has 3 times the energy density (when mixed per unit of inducted air into engine, not per volume of the fuel itself). For instance, propane and natural gas have less specific output than gasoline (by a bit). And methanol and ethanol are good for 5% more power are so. And nitromethane will nearly triple the power output. Of course then you would need a separate tank for the nitromethane and probably a separate fueling system to run it. Which brings me full circle to why not just run a base NOS kit if all you want is the cheapest hp out there? Doesn't make sense to run compressed air when NOS is basically the same idea. Bottled oxygen... You just add more gasoline to go with the bottled oxygen just like you would if you were forcing more "air" in via a supercharger or turbocharger.

[ 06. August 2002, 00:02: Message edited by: FormerDatsun510Man ]

 

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[alexlitov]

I think I should contact the seller for the GB on this sucker.