cobb?standback?

[Bravnik]

http://www.mazdas p e e d f o r u m s . o r g / f o r u m / m a z d a s p e e d - 3 - 6 - e c u - c o m p u t e r - t u n i n g / 5 3 3 7 - brief-study-analyzing-effects-throttle-mapping-have-ms3-engine-output.html

COBB tried to put this crap out saying full throttle did nothing. haha, they looked pretty dumb after this post. And guess what, now they offer a version of throttle control on their AP maps, but wait, I thought it did nothing?? lol

PEACE, I'M OUT

See here is the problem. You have no clue of the history of that post. At the time it was done the big thing was more power to redline. Everyone thought that the closing throttle was the cause of our power dropping off at 5.5k.

Cobbs post that you see was showing that no matter full throttle or not you got no more power past 5.5. and that the limiting factor to more power to redline was Cams and not the closing throttle as MANY believed it was at that time. They DIDN'T do that post to show that you didn't get more HP it was all about more HP to redline.

They also did the post to show that they DO have control over the Throttle.

You really should read the post before you quote it. If you did you would also know that they put in the Full Throttle because the community wanted it. So they gave the community what they wanted FOR FREE!

 

[Alexsered]

See here is the problem. You have no clue of the history of that post. At the time it was done the big thing was more power to redline. Everyone thought that the closing throttle was the cause of our power dropping off at 5.5k.

Cobbs post that you see was showing that no matter full throttle or not you got no more power past 5.5. and that the limiting factor to more power to redline was Cams and not the closing throttle as MANY believed it was at that time. They DIDN'T do that post to show that you didn't get more HP it was all about more HP to redline.

They also did the post to show that they DO have control over the Throttle.

You really should read the post before you quote it. If you did you would also know that they put in the Full Throttle because the community wanted it. So they gave the community what they wanted FOR FREE!

really, because I'm reading the posts now and Christian is pretty clearly stating that there is no power to be made with full throttle control, and than he later in the thread posts that in a stock mazdaspeed there is no power to be made, both were proven wrong, and the chart was helping in showing how everything worked, but COBB was shown to look kind of dumb trying to state that there was now power to be made.

COBB does this all the time, first it was the Fuel pump that was causing the ecu to boost cut, than it was the full throttle did nothing on our speed 3's annd so on and so on. If it didn't do anything, than they wouldn't have thrown it into the map.

 

[Bravnik]

really, because I'm reading the posts now and Christian is pretty clearly stating that there is no power to be made with full throttle control, and than he later in the thread posts that in a stock mazdaspeed there is no power to be made, both were proven wrong, and the chart was helping in showing how everything worked, but COBB was shown to look kind of dumb trying to state that there was now power to be made.

COBB does this all the time, first it was the Fuel pump that was causing the ecu to boost cut, than it was the full throttle did nothing on our speed 3's annd so on and so on. If it didn't do anything, than they wouldn't have thrown it into the map.

He is talking about more power to redline not overall HP. Believe me, that Post is OLD and it was done in direct comment to making more power to redline as everyone was going nuts as they were expecting that when the AP came out it would give power to redline. How many times do you see the word REDLINE in the very beginning of that post? You would have had to been here at that time to know why it was done. All anyone wanted from the AP at that time was power to redline and not drop like a rock at 5.5k.

You can also see at the bottom that he clearly states that the limiting factor to more HP to redline is Cams.

Believe me. That post was all about getting more HP to redline and nothing more. He even states that depending on your mods you might see a difference in HP overall. The tests were all done on a bone stock MS3 with Dyno's to back it up.

Oh and an interesting side note. A guy posted in the same post saying the the CX7 that got the flash also had the Boost upped as well. 15WHP from more boost is easy to achieve. Not sure of the truth of that statement or how the boost was upped if it was or how much.

 

[speed3driver]

The new v103 Maps released for the Accessport are amazing.. the thing keeps getting better and better.. and soon will be custom tunable.
COBB all the way!!!

 

[spoolin_05]

I was about to buy a used standback from someone on this forum. But after reading all this great info I'm going with the Cobb for the fact it seems that once they give out the software for us to tune ourselves it will be no competition I think.

 

[spoolin_05]

Not to mention customer service seems to be five stars with Cobb

 

[Bravnik]

The software will be out on the 20th. The only issue is they are not giving it too us for free. Have to buy it for 195.

 

[Travo83]

You guys are basturds for making me read all this lol. Any hows, one small point to add. Cobb has done all there tunes with Cobb parts. maybe throwing in others as well to see what the diffrence is between the addition of parts here and there. I have not really don't much research into standback from CP-e, Provided they are located here in good ol MD, I think i need to go pay a visit and see what its all about.

BEER FTW!

 

[spoolin_05]

The software will be out on the 20th. The only issue is they are not giving it too us for free. Have to buy it for 195.

where did u get this info from?

 

[acidbug]

COBB Tuning has reconsidered its position on AccessTUNER Race for the MAZDASPEED3/6 platform. Response to the announcement of AccessTUNER Race availability for September 2009 was so extreme and customer confidence in their ability to self-tune is so high that COBB Tuning has changed its strategy regarding the MAZDASPEED market.

AccessTUNER Race for the MAZDASPEED3/6 will be available on April 20th, 2009. This will be the first non-beta release of AccessTUNER Race. The software will be available on our website in the MAZDASPEED3 and MAZDASPEED6 Power section for purchase at $195 per license. This pricing is commensurate with development time, development effort and total size of the MAZDASPEED3/6 market .

AccessTUNER Race software will be locked to a single AccessPORT. The online ordering process will require the serial number of the AccessPORT be captured. Starting on April 20th, software delivery will be fulfilled within 24 hours of order placement.

There will be no telephone or email support for AccessTUNER Race. COBB Tuning has provided a dedicated forum for the Mazda community to discuss issues and tuning strategies HERE. An in-depth AccessTUNER Race Tuning Guide for the MAZDASPEED3/6 will be available for download, at no additional charge, on April 20th.

With the release of AccessTUNER Race, COBB Tuning considers development of the AccessPORT suite of ECU tuning products for the MAZDASPEED3/6 to be complete. AccessTUNER Race and AccessPORT bugs/issues will be addressed in subsequent software and firmware releases, however, no new features are planned to be implemented for this platform.

AccessPORT customers that do not wish to attempt self-tuning will still have the options of procuring e-tuning or dyno-tuning services from a Pro Tuner using AccessTUNER Pro software (including COBB tuning facilities in Salt Lake City UT, Plano TX and Portland OR). Consult with your favorite tuner regarding your interest in having a custom tune performed for your AccessPORT equipped MAZDASPEED3 or MAZDASPEED6.

MAZDASPEED enthusiasts have clearly communicated that the knowledge, experience and expertise to tune the MAZDASPEED3/6 platform resides within the community. On April 20th, 2009, the final tools will be made available and thus empower community members to attain their tuning goals.

Thank you, good luck and happy tuning!

Regards,

Gary Sheehan
Director of Marketing
COBB Tuning

Found Here: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123738440