Cobb AP full Throttle maps!

[dread]

Just wanted to let everyone know that the AP now has fully opened throttle maps available. The tune is even smoother and more powerful than previous cobb tunes. Definately more power up top and in the meat of the powerband. The maps cannot be downloaded on cobb's website yet, but are available on another forum, which unfortunately I can't post a link to. Anyway those who want open throttle are not limited to the CPE flash. Note an open throttle will not take away limits of the stock turbo and camshafts so your hp will not continue to increase until redline with any flash. However there is no longer a sharp drop off like on the stock car. More new maps are coming soon which should make significantly more power than the officially released maps.

 

[ndedomin]

could you send me a link to the forum where these are posted?

 

[happy and angry]

Are they developing a map that eliminates the boost limit in first and second?

 

[dread]

I hit 17.8 psi in second on this map so i am guessing the limit is removed.

 

[oneofakindms3]

I hit 17.8 psi in second on this map so i am guessing the limit is removed.

wuz up evry1.(dread) u think u can pm me bout those maps?

 

[MS3 Ventura]

Still no map for the FMIC though...

 

[aaronc7]

the fmic maps are still being tweaked in general. Christian himself he is unhappy with them in their current state. he said to look for new maps by the end of the week.....i should be getting a beta one any day now

 

[ericrapp]

This is pretty cool with the Cobb. Are their maps based on flow? I have a larger Top mount and my air movement is pretty good right now. More than stock, noticeably. I am starting to read up on these guys again and I am impressed with the thoroughness of their balanced tuning and track success. They have taken a long time to bring a tune to the street though. Just wondered if they have anything that will work for me? I guess I will have to give them a ring.

 

[clos561]

Just wanted to let everyone know that the AP now has fully opened throttle maps available. The tune is even smoother and more powerful than previous cobb tunes. Definately more power up top and in the meat of the powerband. The maps cannot be downloaded on cobb's website yet, but are available on another forum, which unfortunately I can't post a link to. Anyway those who want open throttle are not limited to the CPE flash. Note an open throttle will not take away limits of the stock turbo and camshafts so your hp will not continue to increase until redline with any flash. However there is no longer a sharp drop off like on the stock car. More new maps are coming soon which should make significantly more power than the officially released maps.

dot org site?

 

[dread]

yep dot org.

Currently there are no maps for an upgraded TMIC. However some people are running other maps with the upgraded TMIC without any problems. There may be a map for this configuration in the works though, but it could take a while since COBB has other priorities at the moment.

 

[nig3]

UUUhhhh.... what the hell is full throttle map??

 

[dread]

A map that keeps the throttle open until redline. The ms3 with a stock map has the throttle close at 5700 rpms or so.

 

[LBV]

I'm not sure if the Cobb maps do this, but the CP-E flash opens the throttle to 100%. Anyone that's logged throttle on a dashhawk knows that the tables in the ecu only allow 85% and even then, it hits that for just a short moment and then starts going down.

The CP-E flash holds 100% as long as you're foot is down.

Anyone know if the Cobb maps do this too? Or is it 85% as long as your foot is down??

 

[shucky]

the Cobb FT maps are 100% wide open also (from what I heard).

 

[dread]

Yes they are 100% wide open, which is 85 degrees. I think you are getting the two mixed up. Logging devices are recording degrees not percent.

 

[dkswim]

Yes they are 100% wide open, which is 85 degrees. I think you are getting the two mixed up. Logging devices are recording degrees not percent.

+1 its not percent open its degrees open. and cobb has from the begining been able to do 100% they had/have it close beacuse throtle plate isnt the biggest restriction and so as to promote longer life of the survos they opted to start closing the throtle

 

[LBV]

I don't recall seeing a DH log where AbsThr is logged and it shows 100 though?? Take a look at the CP-E flash logs posted by dadasracecar and you'll see the 100% (previous max was 85%) ... would like to see the same PID logged with the Cobb. What I've seen is RelTPS only.

Thx

 

[SharkDiver]

The ecu reads by degrees..I thought I remember Christian saying that.So if it is at 90 that is wide open.

 

[ztuner]

1st dyno -256 whp, 263 ft lbs tq
Stock Mazda map
Cobb Sri
CS race pipe
Forge BPV

2nd dyno - 239 whp 243 ft lbs tq
Cobb AP - Stage 1+Sri 101msf
Cobb Sri
CS race pipe
Forge BPV

good news - race pipes work all over the rpm range. Makes between 7 - 10 whp and similar torque. Gets beter at higher rpms

bad news - 101msf map performs virtually identical to the old map. TPS shows 72 % on the DH and the AP

good news - the 101 map produced a smaller boost spike 17.5 vs 18.5 and it held boost higher longer. As a result there was a virtually 0 knock count vs the 2 - 3 with the stock tune.
AP tune still makes more power between 5700 and 6500. IMO mostly because it holds more boost and its leaner.

Besides this
AP tune is significantly leaner between 5500 to 6500 rpm
AP tune pulls between 2 - 4 deg in the spoolup area (2500 to 3500 rpm)
AP tune pulls virtually no timing between 3500 to 4500 rpm
Ap tune pulls 2 Deg at 5000, 4 deg at 5500, 6 deg by 6500 rpm

No question the AP tune is smoother in power delivery and produces a wider power band at the expense of peak power.

Dyno sheets are being compiled

Harry

 

[DAC17]

How come the maps aren't on the other site anymore??