Clutch Adjuster Kit

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I would like to get your guys feedback on this too. I read about it in Turbo Magazine but hadn't researched it further yet. Keep us updated.
 
I ordered one on Wed so it should be in today, or Sat am. I'll put it on tonight or Sat am and give some feedback.
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Just curious, is this anything like a short throw shifter. For any that dont know it just shortens the distance the shifter has to move to change gears.
 
Yes, it shortens the distance the clutch needs to travel to engage... Let me see if I can explain how it works:

On the back of our, and most, clutch pedals, there's a small plunger that is connected to a resiviour of hydrolic fluid (clutch/brake fluid). When moved down toward the firewall, it disengages the clutch by adding pressure to the line the allows the clutch to be pulled away.

Now, on the back of the clutch pedal, there's a pin, or a rod, for lack of a better term, that, as the pedal is pressed down, it pushes the plunger inward as it travels further down, to it's stopping point.

This device, the clutch adjuster, works like a stock adjuster, which is a rod, held in place by a threaded hole on the back of the clutch pedal, and pinned in position by a locknut. This device offers a longer rod, so the distance traveled can be shorter to allow for the plunger to go an equal length inward, while the clutch only needs to be depressed, lets say, half as far.

It clamps in position to the arm of the clutch pedal, and the threaded bolt and locknut extend toward the plunger, and you adjust the length manually to what it needs to be.

Hope this description helps!
 
That was my first thought on the car, the clutch may be a little on the stiff side, but I was expecting a much shorter throw than it has.. i am curious to see how this adjuster kit works out, but all in all.. i'd rather have a stiff clutch and a shorter throw.
-Jen
 
Installed the "Clutch Adjuster"

We'll it works, and I'm happy, but I wich I could send it back.

On my Speed, prior to this "clutch adjuster kit" I felt as if I had long throw. After the install, my clutch now stops just after the clutch is engaged, and no longer do I have to work as hard. It feels great and I have to admit..the product works!

I need to make another adjustment in order for the car to start. and you'll see what I mean, you'll figure it out, no worries.

So do I reccomend this item? Nay.. I think 29.00 bucks can be better spent; for example, spend the added 29.00 bucks on a table in vegas.

In hindsight, I'd just add something, anything, on top of the "stopper" so that it meets the clutch arm sooner.

For example, a $0.30 cent mod..

4 or 6 Nickels, stack them together with crazyglue, mount that to the 'stopper"

A more expensive option is as follows......stack quarters.

Anohter option invloes a drive to the hardware store. Go buy a 1/2 or 3/8 inch nut and bolt, throw out the bolt, and and glue that the stopper.

Other ideas...take a set of dice, use one on the the stopper, and you'll use the other for being able to start the car. I reccomend the dice because you have countless color options.

Sorry for the long post, just a little peeved with myself for not buying dice in the first.
 
*makes a note to get a set of rubber stoppers at the hardware store on the way home* I was looking at the stock setup for the clutch, and I can see where you're coming from, csman. Such is the life of a ginuea pig!
 
I did get porked! But it's worth it, I;ve gotten so much good info for free on this site. At the end of the day, it's all good.
cs
 
Yeah, I've been a ginuea pig for the board a couple of times, but I don't mind. =) It's like making a donation. Hehee. Anyway, I just got done installing my 'clutch adjuster kit'. I went down under my pedal, and epoxied a 1/2" nut that I had sitting around to the normal clutch stand, and the clutch is fully engaged about an inch of pedal throw back from the new point, rather than a few inches. The clutch fully engages just fine, and no issues yet. =) Hehee. Best of all, it didn't cost a thing!
 
flat_black said:
Yeah, I've been a ginuea pig for the board a couple of times, but I don't mind. =) It's like making a donation. Hehee. Anyway, I just got done installing my 'clutch adjuster kit'. I went down under my pedal, and epoxied a 1/2" nut that I had sitting around to the normal clutch stand, and the clutch is fully engaged about an inch of pedal throw back from the new point, rather than a few inches. The clutch fully engages just fine, and no issues yet. =) Hehee. Best of all, it didn't cost a thing!

Any chance you could post a picture of this? :D
 
SpicyRay said:
whoa, i forgot about this, but boy, rush hour sucks, this clutch is realllly heavy after a long, long, long day at school.
I don't claim to be an expert but pooling all the cars that myself and my friends have driven that were standard, we have agreed that the Protege has one of the lightest easiest-to-use clutches out there. Try driving stick in a car w/o a hydrolic clutch...
 
Here's the best pic I could get of my 'clutch adjuster'. After driving with it all day today, it seems to work well!

The nut is the thing inside the yellow circle in the pic. =) Just for those of you who couldn't tell.
 
I swear the MSP guys on this board are bipolar or something. When this item was first mentioned as a member saw it in the magazine, I myself, asked about this clutch adjuster kit only to be told that it'd be a bad thing since "Mazda set it that way intentionally" and that I'd "need new motor mounts" and stuff. :confused: Neither of which made sence since you're just adjusting the travel but no one arguing that fact then...

Lemme find the thread...

From http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26613&highlight=turbo+magazine+clutch

t3ase said:
Definately need more info on the clutch travel thing. That's one thing that bothers the hell out of me.. You have to floor the clutch to get it in gear. Any brand names/models/etc would be very helpful.
Micaspeed! said:
With out actually verifying this, I believe Mazda intentially limits how quickly the clutch engages, not travel. Just like BMW did on some 540's, I believe. This is to avoid driveline shock. BMW accomplished this by installing a flow limit valve in the rubber flex line from the master to slave. A simple retrofit with a non valved one, did the trick. Everyone who did this on the BMW said it made a big difference. I suspected such a device while driving my car on a daily basis. Let me know if anyone does a retro fit with an es part.

Godspeed!
Dave
MSPDAVE125 said:
Any driveline changes should be compensated with some new Motor mounts. You'll shake the head right off the block with harder engaging clutch!

IMO
srd555 said:
Man, I have read their little article on it several times and I still cannot figure it out.

It looks like it adjusts the pedal stop point, but I do not see how its going to help the throw. Or maybe I am just stupid and "can't read good".

And now it's the best idea that's hit the MSP now. :rolleyes:
 
I'd hardly say it's the best idea out there. ;) Hehee. It's easy to adjust the clutch by yourself, by setting the engagement point, which I did just to make sure the clutch engaged fully when I clutched, and disengaged fully when off of it, but my simple 'nut-and-epoxy' adjuster seemed to be just the right height for me.

Again, NOT EVERYONE'S CLUTCH WILL HAVE THE SAME SETTINGS FROM THE FACTORY. I urge you to make sure the clutch is engaging and disengaging at the right points, as if it's not, you'll end up burning up a clutch REALLY fast, or worse.

But if you feel confident in adjusting the factory clutch settings, my solution is just right for you. =) And better yet, a 10 cent one. ;)

People can guess and spectulate all they like, but actually trying it is the true test, within reason. I mean, don't try and shoehorn a Supra Turbo header onto a Protege; Use common sense. But if you think something may work, think it out, try it, and make sure you know what you're doing. =) The true essence of customization is in the first part of the word; 'custom'. As in 'not originally designed for this car'.

That nut wasn't designed to fit on the little rubber mount, but it sure works for me, and now I have a clutch adjust that no one else has, albiet possibly only for a short while. ;)

t3ase: Your problem can probably be solved by adjusting the pin on the back of the clutch pedal, so you don't have to floor it as hard. It's two nuts, 12mm, one to lock the pin in place, the other to adjust the distance. If you want, I can send you the section from the FSM where it specifies how to adjust the clutch. Just ask. =)
 

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