Can this be done safely? (a little dreaming)

[herbieP5]

it cost sport compact car under 500 bucks us when they fortified the tranny in Project SER. they cryod and shotpeened and estimated strenth increases of like 200 % or something like that.

supposed to be well worth the investment.

 

[Subghetto]

Is that for manual or auto?

 

[acidbug]

Mathew..Adding Forged internals will help out your engine dramatically...Especially if you plan to boost high all the time..

When thinking about turbo'ing your car..you need to take into account that..adding extra hp will infact hurt your engine in the long run..how bad you might ask?

Well that has to do with your driving habits..

Spoolin's car was not a daily driver...i mean when he tried/trying to sell it..i believe it's got under 30k...and it's a 2001!

If you are lookin for a drag car..the protege is not for you!

Now if you are looking for a way to get the hp up..and to have some fun...than you get a kit similar to mine..and don't raise up the boost to high..get a good ems...and a solid turbo kit...and an upgraded clutch..and you should be fine..i mean..there are a couple people running 8psi on stock engines and pushing close to or over 200hp!

Chas

 

[Matthew]

No way I pay sub $600/month for my STI. $30K will be about $560-$550 if you get a low rate. I got 4.5% for 60 months on a $32K loan.

How much money did u put down to get the payments down to that? Also how much is your insurance? How much would the payments be if someone was to put down say 4-6K...somewhere in the $350 a month maybe?

with an average interest rate figure 20 dollars payment per month for every thousand financed. with 6k down and an average interest (not as low as 4.5%), figure around 500-525 per month. 350 a month even with a good interest rate is very low 20k dollar range, and if you can find a sti for that much, have fun.

 

[MP3skaterNC]

thats what alot of smart people have done

(lol2)

 

[midnightracr]

no one hear has really pushed the car hard past that hp for any length of time.

I don't know about that. I think DeckedoutMp5 did when he had his Highboost kit. I forget what he ran against on the xpressway an Audi or something.....well he said when he looked down he was doing well over 140mph..... which obviously means he was banging the gears

Can u get on it hard though? I don't mean drag the piss out of it but I don't want to up & buy a turbo and have to baby it all the time... u know what I mean

 

[Familia323]

Can u get on it hard though? I don't mean drag the piss out of it but I don't want to up & buy a turbo and have to baby it all the time... u know what I mean

thats what i was getting at... Spend all that money, and constantly check gauges, wires, connections, change the psi when it gets cold out, bla bla bla... Then have to baby the s*** out of it cause you are gonna drive it everyday.. NO thanks. Sounds like too much of a pain in the ass, you'd save yourself the trouble if you just saved up for a long time and bought a really nice car.

Dont get me wrong the car is fun, but it costs too much to make it even touch high 13's

 

[Matthew]

i talked to juan he said at 8psi he doesnt think the longevity of the engine will be adversely affected.

 

[MP3skaterNC]

Juan is also trying to sell you a turbo kit... Any mod is going to cut the life of an engine, unless you drive like a grandmother all the time and the car never sees full boost. Also, the 14psi dynos were done on 100 octane, Im pretty sure about that.

 

[Matthew]

well of course i can understand that. but he was talking like 8psi, not 14.

 

[Matthew]

Oh yes, with forged internals you can boost as high as 22 or 24 PSi with the proper fuel for racing and still can boost around 14 psi on 93 octane.

If you want to go with forged internals I would suggest going with 8.5 to 1 compression pistons. This way you can run high boost on the street on gas fuel.

Our kit comes pre-mapped and there is no need to tune it. It is programed for up to 15 psi with F10 haltech or up to 30 PSI with the E6X upgrade with 3 Bar MAP sensor.

The kit can be installed by yourself. 95% of our customers have done it themselves in just two days.

Juan

 

[Familia323]

If you want to know about the kit, I think the best advice is to talk to the people who own them. And people who aren't trying to sell them. (werd)

 

[Matthew]

definately, which is one of the reasons why i started the survey thread

 

[1sty]

Dont get me wrong you've done it right. But what fun is it to have 250whp and not be able to peel out occasionaly and be rough with the car? I dont know about anyone else, but I dont have that kind of self control.

And there in lies the problem. Many people aren't. Also if Perfworks is correct, then Hi revs are very dangerous on these engines when boosted. So you basicly have to shift before 6K rpm and be very easy on the tranny...aka NO RACING!!.. Well atleast not alot.

 

[1sty]

Damn I was also thinking of getting a going FI in the future? But all this talk his scaring the s*** out of me (nervous) if I were to get a turbokit, which turbokit would be the safest to run on an auto P5?, I emailed juan and he said that you can safely run 8psi on the hiboostkit but no higher than that w/o a fortfied tranny. I was thinking would it be easier and cheaper just to get a turbo off an msp and hooked it up to my P5? and how much psi do stock msp run? and since a turbo wears down the engine life does this mean that the msp will give out like in around 50k?

Was everyopne is saying is that the safety limit is determined by you and your driving. I believe Hiboost is about the only option for an auto right now.

Has anyone approached Level 10 about an automatic tranny rebuild for the protege?

 

[1sty]

damn everyone has made good points. i really dont peel out or anything, or even drive rough as it is. hell, i dont even race often. but i would like to be able to hold my own on a track if challenged, or destroy a mustang GT or two occasionally wiithout worrying.

Thats why I gave up on the MP3. I was sick of worring what might go wrong. I babied it mostly but I always wanted to unlease it but was always scared to do so. I never had an issue, but I never was sure that I wouldn't.

 

[1sty]

shouldn't be too expensive for shot peening, any machine shop should be able to do it for less than 100. That may even be on the high side. I know someone has shot-peened their gears here on the board. Maybe he can say. The cryo treatment i don't know exactly, you'd have to find a place that will do it though. Shouldnt be too big of a kick in the nuts..

I believe the synchros are the major worry.

 

[1sty]

No way I pay sub $600/month for my STI. $30K will be about $560-$550 if you get a low rate. I got 4.5% for 60 months on a $32K loan.

How much money did u put down to get the payments down to that? Also how much is your insurance? How much would the payments be if someone was to put down say 4-6K...somewhere in the $350 a month maybe?

I was 3K uposide down on my trades and only paid that off with the downpayment, so I basicly put zeron down on the STI.

My insurance is $750/6 months. With the MP3 its was about $600/6months. Both factor in my 35% safe driver discount. To get it to $350/month you are looking at putting down $13,500 when buying it for $32K and at a 5% rate.

 

[1sty]

Oh yes, with forged internals you can boost as high as 22 or 24 PSi with the proper fuel for racing and still can boost around 14 psi on 93 octane.

If you want to go with forged internals I would suggest going with 8.5 to 1 compression pistons. This way you can run high boost on the street on gas fuel.

Our kit comes pre-mapped and there is no need to tune it. It is programed for up to 15 psi with F10 haltech or up to 30 PSI with the E6X upgrade with 3 Bar MAP sensor.

The kit can be installed by yourself. 95% of our customers have done it themselves in just two days.

Juan

Don't forget those boost levels require correct tuning of both spark and fuel.

Forged internals are not at all needed for only 8 PSI if its tuned with a haltech.

 

[Matthew]

thats what i was hoping for. i mean, 8psi should be a decent boost (christ, twice stock HP after all) for daily driving, and i should be able to "get on it" without any real worries. at least thats what im hoping.