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I read a review that said the MS3 is for racer-boys probably because they couldn't print Ricer in a professional review. Hmm yea, 5.5 seconds is too slow for me though.
Caliber srt-4 goes 0-60 in 5.5 seconds
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hmmm ... looking at the article.... 285 hp @ 6400rpm??
wow, I'd imagine by 6400 it HAS to be running outa steam - which would means the MS3 should make more power quicker. I guess we'll have to wait for the dyno and compare curves
although externally... I love the MS3 curves (wink) whereas the caliber looks like it has a lot of stuff just tacked onto it, kinda like the VW "un-pimp the auto" commercials
wow, I'd imagine by 6400 it HAS to be running outa steam - which would means the MS3 should make more power quicker. I guess we'll have to wait for the dyno and compare curves
although externally... I love the MS3 curves (wink) whereas the caliber looks like it has a lot of stuff just tacked onto it, kinda like the VW "un-pimp the auto" commercials
Agreed on the looks. Absolutely hideous "car."
And why look out for them on the street? If you're one of those dumb asses who try to prove they have a big wiener by street racing illegally, yeah, you might get beat. But, I'm hoping you don't do that. I don't understand why you douchebags continue to pull this s*** on the streets.(drive2)
I actually did not mean that as in a race...I do not condone street racing at all any one that races on the streets in a d-bag! So I agree with you it was meant as a general statement.
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DAMN IT! Release the thing already I want to read the comparison reviews already! MS3 vs SRT-4 vs WRX. Should be fun to watch the videos too! Too bad the RalliART comes in so late into the game after the MS3 is long gone. That would have been a sick four way comparison.
The next Cobalt SS is going to have the Solstice GXP engine though so that should be interesting
The Si, SER-V and GTI are being left behind. Come on VW turn up the boost like you did in the EU (230+hp).
The next Cobalt SS is going to have the Solstice GXP engine though so that should be interesting
The Si, SER-V and GTI are being left behind. Come on VW turn up the boost like you did in the EU (230+hp).No doubt the MS3 power versus price got me into the showroom and sealed the deal. However, it is two months of roaming Colorado mountain passes and twisties that brought out the real character of the car. This machine is perfectly tuned for the corners; the handling/power is amazing. The sport bike is collecting dust because the MS3 is so much fun to drive hard in the fun sections.
The 0-60 and 1/4 have to be there to extract this much fun, but for me the real value is working the backroads. The balance, braking, and exit speed characteristics are extremely addictive. If other machines whip me strait line; fine. I believe the MS3 engineers put a huge amount of work into the total package and created a low cost machine that delivers a huge smile when pushed hard. It simply begs you to wick it up through the corners and short straits. The torque is amazing, almost electric motor like, and the engine is incredibly smooth throughout the entire power band.
Bring on the competition, I don't doubt for a second that the MS3 engineers nailed it with the overall performance versus price on this car. Then they topped it off with a fantastic interior, seats, controls, and looks.
The 0-60 and 1/4 have to be there to extract this much fun, but for me the real value is working the backroads. The balance, braking, and exit speed characteristics are extremely addictive. If other machines whip me strait line; fine. I believe the MS3 engineers put a huge amount of work into the total package and created a low cost machine that delivers a huge smile when pushed hard. It simply begs you to wick it up through the corners and short straits. The torque is amazing, almost electric motor like, and the engine is incredibly smooth throughout the entire power band.
Bring on the competition, I don't doubt for a second that the MS3 engineers nailed it with the overall performance versus price on this car. Then they topped it off with a fantastic interior, seats, controls, and looks.
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You hit the nail right on the head. I could care less about straight line performance. If I did I would save my money and strap a rocket to a go-cart. Power is only good if it's well controlled. Muscle cars offer nothing to me. The MS3 isn't a muscle car. And it shouldn't be compared to them. It's a powerful, well-balanced driving car.
You hit the nail right on the head. I could care less about straight line performance. If I did I would save my money and strap a rocket to a go-cart. Power is only good if it's well controlled. Muscle cars offer nothing to me. The MS3 isn't a muscle car. And it shouldn't be compared to them. It's a powerful, well-balanced driving car.
Big +1, I've always been about bang for the buck, and IMO the MS3 cannot be beat for the $$, not just for performance but for overall fit and finish.
While the performance specs for the SRT may be similar, I highly doubt that the overall package will come close to the MS3.
Also, the styling of the SRT is so over-the-top...I really think Dodge dropped the ball as far as looks go. They are clearly appealing to a younger demographic here, while the MS3 has looks that appeal to a much broader audience.
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Styling cues from Pontiac?
In my opinion, anyone who is flaunting such an ugly car would look like an f'n jackass (no relation to Swampass). I'm confused as to what it's styling purpose is....WTF is that thing trying to be? A Dodge Nitro? A Jeep? A prop from the movie Spaceballs? It's too ugly to race. More distance between it an myself, the better. I'd rather let it go by, laughing at whoever thought it was a good idea to buy. Dodge....yeah, that's the idea.
If looks are a clue, handling probably isn't it's strong point. Might go fast in a straight line, but that's so one-dimensional, typical.
In my opinion, anyone who is flaunting such an ugly car would look like an f'n jackass (no relation to Swampass). I'm confused as to what it's styling purpose is....WTF is that thing trying to be? A Dodge Nitro? A Jeep? A prop from the movie Spaceballs? It's too ugly to race. More distance between it an myself, the better. I'd rather let it go by, laughing at whoever thought it was a good idea to buy. Dodge....yeah, that's the idea.
If looks are a clue, handling probably isn't it's strong point. Might go fast in a straight line, but that's so one-dimensional, typical.
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I thought I heard the MS3 was a little bit sloppy on the handling especially compared to other mazdas.
Dragon Queen
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You heard right...the quality of handling performance Characteristics have Fallen over the years with new model Mazda's.
Our handling should Rival BMW, and we don't.
I read all you MS3er's making a mockery of the SRT-4..but you will soon get a horrible reality check when SRT's start walking on MS3's just like the SRT walked on the MSP's.
Let us not be high and mighty here..(fuoops)
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Exactly where are you getting this info?
Exactly what is your point of reference? I've owned 6 Mazdas and I can honestly say that each one has improved over the earlier model in handling, power and overall build quality. Cite references please.
Exactly what is your point of reference? I've owned 6 Mazdas and I can honestly say that each one has improved over the earlier model in handling, power and overall build quality. Cite references please.
Don't confuse your post by trying to make two different points using the same logic. The SRTs won't walk any Mazda in the handling department. The SRT-4 handling was terrible on stock suspension and only moderately better in the ACR version. I don't forsee a vast improvement on this model.
I doubt we'll see any of the new SRTs chassis racing in any professional road racing series.
Dragon Queen
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I'm talking about Speed wise Not handing wise When I say SRT's Walking on MS3's.
In Handling mazda fell below the previous years
In Handling mazda fell below the previous years
