BEGi FMICQ&A with Corky

[Bhamsan]

Man, I was surprised when I saw my friend's n/a-T Supra he turbo'd himself. The IC pipe from IC to TB was 3.5"!

 

[low_psi]

core size is everything!! don't believe science!!

 

[Bhamsan]

**** intercoolers. You don't need one. Just rip it off.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Ken?

sorry been away all day long

will the begi be good for 350whp ?

i see no reason why not. I will ask Corky and I'm sure he'll concur.

i find it hard to believe that the core size doesnt matter.

i never said it didn't matter. said it was not the only and certainly not the most important factor in determining an efficient FMIC by a mile when you have many other crucial factors to look at.

He didn't say the size didn't matter. he just said it was not the only factor.

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I think I missed this question, sure it's been answered before but I can't find it. I noticed the price of the cowdercoating and is that for just the pipes? Or is he offering to coat the entire intercooler?

he can if asked, coat the entire intercooler for you. right now the pipes can be left bare, powdercoated red, black or with a smooth silver flake finish. he is looking at nickel plating and guessing that it will be comparable in cost to powder coat. Chroming is also in the cards but will be more costly than a powder coat.

 

[Wiggles422]

Powdercoating the intercooler would decrease its efficiency. The end tanks might be ok but I wouldnt coat the core.

 

[EvilMSP]

I saw some thread where there is a way of painting the intercooler and it will not affect the cooling. I wasn't sure if it was powdercoating or not but I was suprised by the price and asked anyway.

There was this cool all black subie that had a black fmic and it looked very nice. I'm not a bling bling kind of guy, I'd rather have a black mystery box lol. And since you have all these questions for corky can you please ask him about painting/coating the fmic in a way that wont hurt performance, if there is one. I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[Bhamsan]

I've never seen a powdercoated FMIC...I'd just save the money and get the radiator spray and just cover it all.

 

[Striker187]

maybe you were thinking anondized? but didn't that process damage the ic?

 

[EvilMSP]

Yeah I don't remember what it was exactly but I don't want to thread jack. There is a way of "painting" a fmic that will not impact cooling effeciency, or so the thread said. Lets wait for Corky's opinion.

 

[jeffmsp]

well, I ordered mine today, I cannot wait, this is gonna be TeH s***!!!!!!!! (band2) (band2) (band2) (spin)

 

[Dexter]

Aluminum pipes = big heatsink. You arent cooling the temps if the pipes are holding the heat...get it?

 

[Dexter]

Blah, Blah, Blah. Intake temp are lower when aluminum is used, as in the air going into the tb is lower you idiot. What other intake temp would we be talking about with an intercooler. Explain why it is lower when aluminum is utilized over steel.

Do you have any links or graphs and stuff?

 

[Bhamsan]

Man, I thought the steel vs aluminum agruement was dead.

Oh well, I think I want my pipes made from adamantium, the same s*** Wolverine's skeleton is made from. How well do you think that will hold up to the hot charged air?

 

[Dexter]

its not dead because i think that guy was being overly agressive about stupid metal pipes

Honestly, if i had the money and time (well ive got the time...), i woudl love to have a set of SS pipes and aluminum pipes and a couple of temperature probes, and an IR temp gun, to test the surface of the pipes.

omg i am teh gay

 

[strongbear0]

Do you have any links or graphs and stuff?

For now I have an excerpt from turbohoses website. I will put the graphs up when I find them.

Due to the inherent heat soaking of the stock IC, we have chosen T-6061 aluminum which has the highest heat dissipation properties of any metal. During our test, we have found that using steel, stainless & aluminized steel not only added a considerable amount of weight to the system, but increased intake temperatures slightly higher than OEM piping on medium length drives.

And no I do not work for or have any turbohoses products on my car.

 

[EvilMSP]

I just read on another thread about spray paint that is designed specifically for Radiators. Wouldn't that be ok to spray the intercooler with?

 

[Bhamsan]

I just read on another thread about spray paint that is designed specifically for Radiators. Wouldn't that be ok to spray the intercooler with?

I'm pretty sure that'd work. It was discussed at length in another thread about getting stencils for the FMIC. So, if the paint was good enough to be sprayed on to make a logo or whatever, then I don't see why you couldn't just spray it.

 

[Bhamsan]

On Medium length drives, however. I am not advocating steel over aluminum, since I have no idea which one is really better, seeing as I have not performed any tests myself, and am only getting my information as hearsay. Could it be possible that steel is better for track driving (in other words, beating the s*** out of your car), which aluminum is better for daily driving? I don't see how there can be this much disparity between opinions, both sides believing they are the right answer. There has to be something...

 

[peepsalot]

Fact: The goal with your intake is to get cold air.
Fact: Heat flows from hot to cold
Fact: A better heat conducting material(assuming same shape) will cause more heat to flow(either into, or out of your intake path)

So like I said before, it all depends on whether the air temp inside the pipe is higher or lower than outside the pipe.
These temps will vary along the length of the pipe, and depend on many variables such as boost pressure, efficiency of turbo, efficiency of IC, how much airflow is going through the engine bay(hoodscoop?), among others.
The only way to know for sure is to use an accurate temperaure sensor and test it thoroughly. I stand by my theory that the theoretical ideal piping, no matter how impractical, would be a mixture of very conductive and very insulative sections of pipe. To argue that one material will unconditionally be better than the other is pointless.

 

[EvilMSP]

I agree with you Mr Peepers

You deserve some apples (monkey)