ATTN: Potential Scammer!
- Thread starter Antoine
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2K3 MSP said:
ummm yea thats what i said lol is there an echo in this b**** heheh. j/p
GHOSTWHISPER
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I think that is the best overall method. I think a member that has been here a year or over should be the only one(s) to qualify to vouch for the member that is selling. just my drop in the bucket. Maybe we can give it a trial run, for a couple months, and see if there are less scam threads up that span over that time period. (dunno)Antoine said:
shaundarbie
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This is an idea that I already passed along to Antoine. I think a great step in the right direction is to educate the board members on how to protect themselves from fraud. A thorough, well-written guide to be pinned at the top of the FS forum would go a long way toward minimizing scams. Of course this might not deter the scammers themselves, but it's at least a start.
How should we go about this? Communicate via PM or a public forum with input from everyone...? Then compile it into one nice, neat post...
How should we go about this? Communicate via PM or a public forum with input from everyone...? Then compile it into one nice, neat post...
shaundarbie
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Also, has anyone discussed the possiblity of changing "Reputation Points" to a more reliable seller feedback-type system (a-la-ebay)?
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GHOSTWHISPER
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Sounds great if you guys want to do it over IM, my msn and windows, is decrypt512@mail2nemesis.com(GHOSTWHISPER). But I think we should really discuss, all the different ideas, from trader rating, feedback rating, and Vouching. It could be like a point system under our post count or reputation. But we would have to setup strict guidlines, and tell the forum members that this is to benefit them, from getting scammed, so they cannot start a "Reputation Points" type thread were they all just start giving each other Vouch's or poitive trader ratings. I think we should all think about at least two ways to help this problem go away, devise restrictions, and full guidelines for each one. Then we should come together and pick 3 of which we all think are the best and then present them to Enry or Antoine, and see were it goes from there. Just throwing that out. If you do agree, what should are deadline be?shaundarbie said:
Thanks
mp5racing21
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And that POS capnsavem tried to get me to buy that kit when I asked a simple question about bumpers on this forum. People like that you just want to strangle them, they piss me off. I hope the guy gets his due.
And that POS capnsavem tried to get me to buy that kit when I asked a simple question about bumpers on this forum. People like that you just want to strangle them, they piss me off. I hope the guy gets his due.
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wow u guys are going to the sky is the limit s*** if thats the case then tell them to just put the s*** on ebay. if its going to be all complicated then wtf. ived bought 2 things off this bored so far and it went great, fast etc this sounds like it will drag out the process. dont get me wrong i want everyone to be safe and such but if were goign to do all this then y not ebay in the first place?
Antoine
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We are merely throwing out ideas and discussing them...The final strategy will have to be practical and efficient (as I've stated before). The 3 main priorities are...
* Easy to implement (as seamless as possible)
* Effective (actually deters scammers)
* Enforceable (can be maintained & enforced with only a reasonable amount of effort)
We can come up with great ideas until the end of time but if they don't meet the above criteria than it's a NO GO!
* Easy to implement (as seamless as possible)
* Effective (actually deters scammers)
* Enforceable (can be maintained & enforced with only a reasonable amount of effort)
We can come up with great ideas until the end of time but if they don't meet the above criteria than it's a NO GO!
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Antoine said:
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shaundarbie
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Not complicated, just safer for buyers.
We'll come up with something workable for everyone...GHOSTWHISPER
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Oh yes we will, scammers beware. Oh the KnightWolf team will attack, we prevoked.
I think all these ideas a great...this will help the new guys -- like me -- from gettin screwed. It's hard to know who and who not to trust when you've only been hanging around here for a short time.
I think I've just finally come down to the conclusion that I HATE PEOPLE! why can't we all just get along?
I think I've just finally come down to the conclusion that I HATE PEOPLE! why can't we all just get along?
p5power said:
Here's the thing about hating people; It's easy to like people till you ask them about their stance on politics and religion. Then it's easy to see a person's true inner-self once you see how they stand on those two topics. Most people are ignorant and racist. But hey, what are you going to do? (shrug)
shaundarbie
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Ok, here's my summary of the ideas that have been discussed:
Summary of Ideas
Important Principles:
Selling on msprotege.com is privilege, not a right
Scammers will not be tolerated and will be pursued aggressively
While a forum cannot guarantee that someone is trustworthy, msprotege.com will try to reach this goal
EDUCATE!!!
My Favorites:
Trader Ratings
Require sellers phone number
Impractical Ideas:
Escrow System
"[Scammers] should be kicked in the nuts, then be stripped of all his aftermarket parts and generously be given to [member]. Just my opinion, though."
"Its amazing how scammers can live with themselves. I would feel like s**t not earning my way through life honestly. I think its the parents. S**tty parents raise s**tty kids."
Summary of Ideas
Important Principles:
Selling on msprotege.com is privilege, not a right
Scammers will not be tolerated and will be pursued aggressively
While a forum cannot guarantee that someone is trustworthy, msprotege.com will try to reach this goal
EDUCATE!!!
My Favorites:
Trader Ratings
- Either create new system or convert current reputation point system
- Buyers educated to research those giving feedback
- Lists all past scammers
- Includes scam threads (for sellers to research by type of scam)
- Catalog IP addresses of scammers
- Title applied to avatar (in red?) if no response to scam allegation
- Applied after two weeks of no response
- Both sellers and buyers
- After 30 days of membership
- Only $0.55 for USPS!
- Protects both parties
- Encourage Paypal, getting references from seller, etc.
- More details to come
Require sellers phone number
- Too easy to change number, give wrong number, etc.
- Excellent, except for those sellers that dont have digital cameras
- But still very good ideaway to work around those that dont have cameras?
- How to decide if user is trusted?
- Trusted user joins scam
- Not everyone has an acquaintance on msprotege.com
- What about new users?
Impractical Ideas:
Escrow System
- Way too much work
- Too intrusive, privacy issues
- At this point it basically becomes AMM/Authorized Vendor status
- Plenty of examples of good vendors with low post counts
- Use as a cautionary tool?
"[Scammers] should be kicked in the nuts, then be stripped of all his aftermarket parts and generously be given to [member]. Just my opinion, though."
"Its amazing how scammers can live with themselves. I would feel like s**t not earning my way through life honestly. I think its the parents. S**tty parents raise s**tty kids."
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