Army unit in Iraq disobeys orders
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Matthew said:
Thank you for your service.
The mission that was declined by the 19 people in the quartermaster was later carried out by 120 troops, in well armored vehicles. If some pussy decides to back out of missions thats fine call and label him whatever, but when its more than one (ie 19) then something isnt right. It wasnt a decision made by just one person the whole group decided not to do the mission, so does that make ALL 19 soldiers pussies? Probably not.
Just remember how much money the US has put into this war, you would think with over 100 billion you could at least make sure the troops were properly equipped. But hey, as long as Iraqis can vote then so by golly all those fallen soldiers is worth it!!!!!!!
where does it say they went out iwth armored vehicles? no where that i could see. try reading that again.
the vehciles were fine i am sure. deadlined means s*** in the army, if you were in you would know. a broken speedometer deadlines a vehicle but in combat you can operate without one.
what it is, is some jackass that convinced the rest of the 19 not to participate, and they should all be jailed. if you cant ******* follow simple orders, you shouldnt be in the military. if everyone just decided on a whim which missions to take and which not to take, how much do you think would get accomplished?
the vehciles were fine i am sure. deadlined means s*** in the army, if you were in you would know. a broken speedometer deadlines a vehicle but in combat you can operate without one.
what it is, is some jackass that convinced the rest of the 19 not to participate, and they should all be jailed. if you cant ******* follow simple orders, you shouldnt be in the military. if everyone just decided on a whim which missions to take and which not to take, how much do you think would get accomplished?
Here is part of what the Chicago Tribune carried on-line today:
"The U.S. Army Reserve soldiers who refused orders to drive a dangerous route are members of one of a few supply units whose trucks still are not armored, their commanding general said Sunday.
The soldiers, now under investigation, previously focused on local missions in safer parts of southern Iraq and had not driven a convoy north along the attack-prone roads through Baghdad.
"Not all of their trucks are completely armored," said Brig. Gen. James Chambers, commanding general of 13th Corps Support Command, which sends 250 convoys daily with Army fuel, food and ammunition across Iraq."
"The U.S. Army Reserve soldiers who refused orders to drive a dangerous route are members of one of a few supply units whose trucks still are not armored, their commanding general said Sunday.
The soldiers, now under investigation, previously focused on local missions in safer parts of southern Iraq and had not driven a convoy north along the attack-prone roads through Baghdad.
"Not all of their trucks are completely armored," said Brig. Gen. James Chambers, commanding general of 13th Corps Support Command, which sends 250 convoys daily with Army fuel, food and ammunition across Iraq."
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Just to put my 2 cents here.
I just got back from Fallujah and the "Armor" really didnt do s*** with those IEDS, Day in and Day out, our Devildogs came back F***ed Up because of IEDS, but they never refused one Patrol or Convoy. Speaking of broken down vehicles, on our convoy to come back home, 2 of our 5 Tons broke down in between Ramadi and Fallujah. We were down for about 1 1/2 hours! . Those 19 people should have sucked it and went on their way, Im pretty sure they had enough Weapons, I guess they might have wanted Helo escorts.
I just got back from Fallujah and the "Armor" really didnt do s*** with those IEDS, Day in and Day out, our Devildogs came back F***ed Up because of IEDS, but they never refused one Patrol or Convoy. Speaking of broken down vehicles, on our convoy to come back home, 2 of our 5 Tons broke down in between Ramadi and Fallujah. We were down for about 1 1/2 hours! . Those 19 people should have sucked it and went on their way, Im pretty sure they had enough Weapons, I guess they might have wanted Helo escorts.
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Some reserve personnel just need to be kicked out, some of them are pretty old, I feel bad for them, but either way, the mission should have been completed, Im pretty sure they had Crew Served weapons or enough firepower to hold someone off until reinforcements arrived.Matthew said:
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I don't think a hemmit fuel truck can be "well armored"
Then, the only speed you need to know is haul ass.
Some of the reserve are probably pissed cause now they actually have to go fight, and here they thought they just did a few weeks here and there. I mean who would have thought you have to actually fight in the military, you mean all the commericals of playing golf and jet sking aren't true?? 
On Monday, Ricky Shealey of Quinton, Ala., father of one of the soldiers involved, told The Associated Press that his son, Spc. Scott Shealey, said the trucks earmarked for the mission had hauled jet fuel and were then loaded with diesel fuel without purging the tanks. "The fuel was mixed and he wasn't going on a mission to deliver fuel that could harm those with the helicopters," Ricky Shealey told the AP.
im not in aviation, but since when do helicopters use diesel fuel?
im not in aviation, but since when do helicopters use diesel fuel?
thought so...
http://www.blue-helicopter.com/html_en/faq.html#5
just goes to show you morons have no clue what they are talking about.
http://www.blue-helicopter.com/html_en/faq.html#5
just goes to show you morons have no clue what they are talking about.
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9 out of 10 recreuiters would make you think so - lolREMillers said:I mean who would have thought you have to actually fight in the military, you mean all the commericals of playing golf and jet sking aren't true??
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I'm in aviation. They use jp8
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