Armor All is EVIL

Best stuff on the planet for doing your vinyl is Wizards Vinyl Shine... I've never seen anything like it... just amazing luster quality (looks "glowing"... never fake shiney etc) and never gets sticky or wears off or anything.. it's awesome.
 
Also, all the rumors etc about armor all destroying vinyl and so forth is that is incompatible with some older types of PVC vinyls... not common in current cars... also most armor all does NOT have a sunscreen in it... and plastic doesn't like strong UV... newer and higher quality vinyl cleaners and protectants have additives to help plastic withstand a lot of sun... but if you garage your car most of the time, it isn't typically necessary.... but isn't bad either...
 
found this on a plastics forum where they were talking about restoring old telephones and different plastic items etc..
Styrene-based polymers are very soluble in many solvents. They are also
thermoplastics, meaning they soften when heated. Try to avoid solvents
with these. There have been cases where a solvent that did not dissolve
the plastic, but caused future damage by stress corrosion cracking. I know
of one particularly nasty case where the solvent in Armor-All caused major
damage to ABS plastics. If you polish or buff these plastics, be very

careful about overheating them. This happens quickly so be very careful.
 
Another tidbit I picked up from a wise old detailer back when I was in the business: ArmorAll (or anything similar that doesn't contain a sunscreen) can actually act as a magnifying glass for UV rays. When applying an oily substance to any surface, you're actually adding a thin layer that can multiply heat absorbsion and you end up simmering the top of your dash in hot oil. You can see this affect by swimming around in a pool on a sunny day - the sunburn can be twice as bad, and occur twice as fast - under the right conditions, the water will magnify the sun's rays. Coating plastics in an oily film carries the same principal.

Something I learned from seeing some pretty bad examples of neglect: The headrests and tops of the back seat take a real beating from the sun - use a leather treatment that has a UV blocker, and you may even go as far as my mother did on her Accord after some damage had already been done - placing some sort of cover over the top of the back seat. The leather on the tops of her headrests was COOKED after a couple of years of neglect, and non-tinted windows. I applied some leather treatment to stop the damage and she threw a small blanket in the back window shelf to prevent further "sunburn". If you have your windows tinted with a product that actually blocks a good portion of UV (some 'smoke' tints actually don't block much UV) then you don't have to be as concerned. If you have NO window tint, pay close attention to this area under the rear window (sedan).
 
Steve where do you get this stuff?
i have been using Armor All and i have no complaint other than i dont really like the finish so im looking for alternatives.
thanks!

TurfBurn said:
Best stuff on the planet for doing your vinyl is Wizards Vinyl Shine... I've never seen anything like it... just amazing luster quality (looks "glowing"... never fake shiney etc) and never gets sticky or wears off or anything.. it's awesome.
 
GimmeA3S said:
Another tidbit I picked up from a wise old detailer back when I was in the business: ArmorAll (or anything similar that doesn't contain a sunscreen) can actually act as a magnifying glass for UV rays. When applying an oily substance to any surface, you're actually adding a thin layer that can multiply heat absorbsion and you end up simmering the top of your dash in hot oil. You can see this affect by swimming around in a pool on a sunny day - the sunburn can be twice as bad, and occur twice as fast - under the right conditions, the water will magnify the sun's rays. Coating plastics in an oily film carries the same principal.

Something I learned from seeing some pretty bad examples of neglect: The headrests and tops of the back seat take a real beating from the sun - use a leather treatment that has a UV blocker, and you may even go as far as my mother did on her Accord after some damage had already been done - placing some sort of cover over the top of the back seat. The leather on the tops of her headrests was COOKED after a couple of years of neglect, and non-tinted windows. I applied some leather treatment to stop the damage and she threw a small blanket in the back window shelf to prevent further "sunburn". If you have your windows tinted with a product that actually blocks a good portion of UV (some 'smoke' tints actually don't block much UV) then you don't have to be as concerned. If you have NO window tint, pay close attention to this area under the rear window (sedan).
Thats a good point. Unfortunately for most things when the damage is done its permanent. I had the same issue with my old 626. Back headrests were all hard and cracked and no amount of conditioner was going to fix it. Just like if you were to wax a car that has lost is clear coat. You put wax on there and it doesnt come off. My friend had an old Ranger and we tried to wax it but ended up putting permanent swirls in his paint. I though it was pretty funny, he was kinda pissed.
 
Hi, my name is Brian... it's been a while since I've been here... I've kept off the Canadian Whisky now for a couple hours... it feels good..

AA... LOL!
 
Id stick with the Meguiars NXT Tech Protectant (I think its called Cockpit Shine now) ... if u spray some on a rag and then wipe the dash (and really work it in) the dash will have a very nice look to it and it wont be glossy. If u want a slight gloss just dont work the product in as much.

Pe@ce
 
I'm telling you guys... you've never seen anything like the Wizard's Vinyl shine.. I did it to MadHatter's car and he nearly crapped a brick he liked the look so much... and tallrd and a few others have seen my interior when I detail it and they can attest to the amazing look of all my trim and plastic.... stuff has the most amazing appearance.
 
actually when armor all first came out, i dont know if you guys remember but they did say that you have to continue using it for best results......so the drug theory for the most part is true.....they dont try to ruin your car...they just want you to continue using it, thats how anyone makes money these days. and for the person that said skin is alive, its actually dead. (my 3 cents) oh i should also add that i've been using armor all since it came out and havent had a problem yet and I use it every so often....I guess it mostly if what your car is made of.
 

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