anyone use a kartboy shifter in msp?

[bill harvey]

any of you guys use a kartboy shifter in your mazdaspeed? did it shorten the throw enough to be worth it?

 

[[syko.xero]]

I have one and paired with the bushings the shift has become AMAZING (remember to get a kartboy shift knob as the stock one doesnt fit the new shorter shifter)

 

[[syko.xero]]

bushings are an important part of the shift setup! (just want to reinforce that idea)

 

[bill harvey]

yeah i ditched the stock shiftknob for a mazdaspeed leather one. i live in new england ad the metal got way to cold. % wise how much shorter is the shift?

 

[[syko.xero]]

It seems about 10% or so shorter but you cannot even imagine how much more solid and nice the shift is made with the shifter/bushings

 

[bill harvey]

I had his bushings and shifter in my subaru so i am fimiliar with the bushings

 

[TheJohnny]

SYKO.XERO So you replaced the entire shifter then, to include the new bushings and it's a shorter throw then the already short MSP shifter????? If so, I'm ordering this right now.

 

[marashka]

if you like to keep your stock shift knob you might wanna get B&M shifter with Kartboy bushings.....work great.....very solid shift feeling and makes the throw shorter by a LOT.

 

[TheJohnny]

if you like to keep your stock shift knob you might wanna get B&M shifter with Kartboy bushings.....work great.....very solid shift feeling and makes the throw shorter by a LOT.

Cool, thanks man. I'm going to look into this, I love short throw shifters.

 

[Glowmunkey]

Does the B&M or the Kartboy actually shorten the height of the shift knob itself?

I am perfectly familiar with how a short shifter works, but I'm interested in whether the actual position of the shifter changes.

 

[Katya4me]

If you specify that you have an MSP, Kartboy will threader the shifter so you can keep your stock knob.

 

[prospeed]

i had the karboy shifter in my msp and you can have him thread it to keep the stock knob. and also the shifter handle is shorter.

 

[marashka]

Does the B&M or the Kartboy actually shorten the height of the shift knob itself?

I am perfectly familiar with how a short shifter works, but I'm interested in whether the actual position of the shifter changes.

B7M actually makes it a little longer, which i like even better, cause it's perfect to rest your elbow on the armrest and easier to shift at the same time.......you have to feel it to understand it i guess....hehe but trust me its worth the money....imo

 

[2K3 MSP]

Here are a few shots I had taken to give you an idea of exactly how short the Kartboy shifter/knob combo is. This is next to a standard size spray paint can...

 

[toucci]

I'd say the bushings are most important for the MSP. on the P5 it reduced the truck-like throw and also stiffened it up. I got the knob too which I really like although some people don't like this type. I think it's best for the most reliable shifting technique

 

[jonnydoe48]

everyone should get it. best 100 (i got bushings too) that i have spent. makes driving more fun.

 

[unwound]

i ordered mine last week along with the bushings and some of their exhaust hanger.

i got a free shirt too. woo hooo!

i will be puting them some time in the next week so i cannot vouch for the shifting yet; i can say that tom is a an awesome guy and they ship really, really fast.

you will not be disappointed

 

[Glowmunkey]

Well sounds good. Guess the only choice now is whether I go with Kartboy for what looks like stock height or the B&M which would bring it closer... both are tempting.

 

[2K3 MSP]

The kartboy is definatley not stock height.

 

[Glowmunkey]

The kartboy is definatley not stock height.

Significantly shorter?? Or longer?