About Wiesco Pistons:

[LinuxRacr]

Here is the e-mail I recieved back concerning my query:

I sent:I am needing to know if how fast I could get some pistons for the Mazda FS-DE (I-4/2.0L)engine. This engine has the same block as the old 2.0L Ford Probe FS series motors. The car I currently have is the Mazda Protege MP3. I have a Bell Engineering/Flyin' Protege Turbo kit bolted on, and just recently broke a rod (I just ordered Pauter rods to replace that), and I am wanting a complete package. I really need to get these pistons at stock compression of 9.1:1, and really fast! If you need basic Bore&Stroke specs, see here: http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsSpecsSpecs&vehicleCode=PRZ

They said:Really fast for us in racing season is about 4 weeks unfortunately. It wouldn't be a problem to do them w/ rings and pins as a package. I'd want to see one of your factory samples to verify valve pocket location etc. We're probably looking at $88 per piston. $10 per cylinder for rings. Pins about $8. and a $30 engineering fee to verify the configuration. -Thanks, Brian

 

[I-Am-Chris]

damn not bad except for the wait. JE also will make you pistons.

 

[LinuxRacr]

Yeah, probably close to the same turnaround time though... BOOO! (notcool)

 

[YP5 Toronto]

that's good news....minus the wait. Will the pistons be stronger than stock?

 

[LinuxRacr]

Yeah, but unfortunately, I don't have the time or luxury to wait 4 damn weeks!

 

[chdesign]

hey linux to beef up yoru setup and since you need it now....get a set of stock pistons and get the shot peened it will strengthen them quite a bit over stock.

 

[Stou]

Linux, try to take your time and get the good parts for your engine. If you can get a complete forged internal, that will be a hell of a car!

If you realy need a car, maybe you can rent a cheap one for a few weeks!

 

[afrey2002]

4 weeks is nothing, I've been waiting a month and a half, Wiesco has some pistons for our car that are at 8.5:1, those are the one's I'll be getting.

 

[LinuxRacr]

You will probably also have to get your block bored to the best fitment.

 

[low_psi]

i dunno if you plan on doing the work yourself, but you could always just throw the new rods in and put the piston set in in 4 wks. i'm sure if you're paying someone though, it'll be more $$$ to do in stages.

 

[122 Vega]

JE will take at least as long, probably longer for only one set. My other car club www.cosworthvega.com does JE runs of 10-15 sets every other year and it is usually about 6-8 weeks. They are the largest supplier of NASCRAP pistons, and it's that time of year,

Britt

 

[KzA]

I'd want to see one of your factory samples to verify valve pocket location etc. We're probably looking at $88 per piston.

You know..I really don't get this...Why wouldn't these guys just go down to the junkyard and pay $50 for a piston outta a protege..don't you think it would be a good investment? Tellin someone that they must give them one of their pistons for 4 weeks MUST take away tons of potential business...

 

[afrey2002]

replacing it with a stock piston is just a temporary solution, and most people including me don't perticularly like overhauling the engine, so might as well do it right the first time, to where it's not going to happen again. It is worth the wait.

 

[MikeBlueP5]

if linux is getting a new/used block and having it bored, then most of the time the machine shop doing the work will have to have the piston/rings to do the final bore to make sure everything is right, now this may not be the case with linux, but thats what our block machinists require. That may be why he doesnt have the time to wait on the pistons. He will have to wait for them to get there, then get them to the shop and then let them finish machining the block which could take another good 2 days or so, depending upon how much you wanna pay them
Mike

 

[Yello_Pro5]

Re: Re: About Wiesco Pistons:

You know..I really don't get this...Why wouldn't these guys just go down to the junkyard and pay $50 for a piston outta a protege..don't you think it would be a good investment?

Most junkyard won't sell you a single piston. Unless they know for SURE that at least one of the 3 others is dead. The reason is simple: who would buy a block with a missing piston? They rather sell the block as a whole than sell a single piston. Plus, they would have to pay the guy at the junkyard for the time to take it off.

Tellin someone that they must give them one of their pistons for 4 weeks MUST take away tons of potential business...

Most of people who order customs pistons are racers that do not drive their car on a daily basis. A good portion of the others own more than 1 car. That leaves the people who only have their daily drivers probably not worth the extra effort for the companyto make pistons within, let's say 1 week. It sucks, but those companies care more about money than people.

 

[mrwizard9k]

what is the web address for Wiesco cause i am very interested, and also is that price he gave for larger than stock pistons also. i am going to be purchasing another fs-03 and boring it out and putting forged rods and pistons in. also going to have some head work done. does anybody know the maximum size the engine can be bored out? and what are some good places to get rods?
any help will be greatly appreciated

 

[LinuxRacr]

what is the web address for Wiesco cause i am very interested, and also is that price he gave for larger than stock pistons also. i am going to be purchasing another fs-03 and boring it out and putting forged rods and pistons in. also going to have some head work done. does anybody know the maximum size the engine can be bored out? and what are some good places to get rods?
any help will be greatly appreciated

http://www.wiseco.com

For Rods, hit http://www.pauter.com Flyin' Protege got mine from them.

 

[Traveler]

You know, there is one other solution that no one has suggested. Use the stock pistons but have them thermal barrier coated on the crowns. That would make them a LOT more resistant to detonation. Also, it would keep more of the heat in the combustion chamber and that would help power somewhat. Seems like it would be fairly inexpensive compared to the forged ones and also allow for the factory tight clearances that keep piston noise down.

 

[Traveler]

Just checked out the prices. $25 per piston for what they call their "tri" coating process. The piston pins, pin bores and skirts are dry film lubricant coated to reduce friction. The crown is thermal barrier ceramic coated. The underside of the piston crown is also thermal barrier coated. They've heated these up past the point where the aluminum should have melted and the ceramic held the soft aluminum together! Seems like this would be a much better and cheaper solution unless you want to run really big boost. I'd keep the strong rod idea, but I think I'd go with a set of the stock pistons with the three step coating process. Will run about $100 plus shipping for all four pistons and the pins.

 

[LinuxRacr]

Just checked out the prices. $25 per piston for what they call their "tri" coating process. The piston pins, pin bores and skirts are dry film lubricant coated to reduce friction. The crown is thermal barrier ceramic coated. The underside of the piston crown is also thermal barrier coated. They've heated these up past the point where the aluminum should have melted and the ceramic held the soft aluminum together! Seems like this would be a much better and cheaper solution unless you want to run really big boost. I'd keep the strong rod idea, but I think I'd go with a set of the stock pistons with the three step coating process. Will run about $100 plus shipping for all four pistons and the pins.

Details please, and location. LOL!