77 Horsepower!

[yashooa]

Diaper wedge

Thats it. Make a logical argument why the MSP can make mroe the twice what any other TURBO protege can with the same mods and we will be satesfied.

Enjoy!

Because the MSP's dick is way way bigger than those "other" cars.
It the secret Ginsu dick mod.
Makes more boost and smooves out da flow.
It kinda makes the car feel like a 800lb Sumo freak has taken a running start and slamed into the assend of your MSP.
I hear they only had an HIV infected Geisha Chick mod for the MP3 man that's rough. She a so skrinny she can abarely moove da car.
Hiah!

 

[AGR]

A PERFECT "450" Yashooa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(rofl) (rofl) (rofl)

 

[Kooldino]

Is fun speading truth and experience of so many by yourslef, Huh Kool.
I had the plesure yestureday .

LOL

Facts!
1. Saying the MSp will more easily produce power witht he same mods as say Kooldinos and my car is simply worng. Why. Easy WE ALSO HAVE TURBOS! The Debate is not the MSP as a turbo car versus a NA MP3 and the power they will produce with the same mods. The debat is HOW an MSP can yeild far greater numbers with the same mods then any other TURBO PROTEGE!

Good point.

2. No turbo car has ever seen gains like the % we are seeing via the MSP dyno sheet. Not honda, subaru or any other.

Yup. I illustrated that before. Got that guys? NO TURBO CAR, EVER. Not even close.

4. No one is trying to make anyone else "unhappy" what kind of pussification is that. We want answers. Thats it. Make a logical argument why the MSP can make mroe the twice what any other TURBO protege can with the same mods and we will be satesfied.

Yup, what he said.

 

[Kooldino]

Guys, if you wanna talk about this in real time, I would love to over AIM. Posting here is just takin too much bandwith. You guys can try me at Ilovemyspeed for a little while tonight. Im goin to see 2F 2F at the drive in. (flame away, its just entertainment to me ) But will be on before and after.

Im not trying to fight with anymoe, and realize I can be an ass too. Sorry for the heatedness in some of my posts.

Thanks but I'd rather debate on here for everyone to see and reply to.

 

[AGR]

Roger that!!! I guess that's that!!! 77 ain't happenin'. :'(

 

[Kooldino]

Re: Diaper wedge

Because the MSP's dick is way way bigger than those "other" cars.
It the secret Ginsu dick mod.
Makes more boost and smooves out da flow.
It kinda makes the car feel like a 800lb Sumo freak has taken a running start and slamed into the assend of your MSP.
I hear they only had an HIV infected Geisha Chick mod for the MP3 man that's rough. She a so skrinny she can abarely moove da car.
Hiah!

LOL. Sugar, anyone?

 

[Kooldino]

Roger that!!! I guess that's that!!! 77 ain't happenin'. :'(

Wow, so you agree? Props for seeing our points and rethinking your view.

 

[1sty]

Wow, so you agree? Props for seeing our points and rethinking your view.

He just has a personality disorder. Half of his 12 personas think we are right, 5 think the Dyno is Dead on and one want to hump a monkey. Stay away from that one.
(rofl)

 

[AGR]

Wow, so you agree? Props for seeing our points and rethinking your view.

No. I'm humoring you! I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. As I have stated previously, I know nothing about these mods, or what they are capable of.

While children starve (somewhere) in this world, there is bickering about a few silly horsepower here and there. It saddens me so.

 

[AGR]

He just has a personality disorder. Half of his 12 personas think we are right, 5 think the Dyno is Dead on and one want to hump a monkey. Stay away from that one.
(rofl)

I here ya Yoda Boy!

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

ARG#7 = :'(

TURBO3WAGON = (drinks) (boobs) (usa)

CHILL, this is fun!

 

[AGR]

Oh my! I do believe, I just shat myself.

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

Here man this round is on me.

(drinks) (cheers) (drinks)

 

[kwiktsi]

LOL, yes I understand that.



It's not. But the AMOUNT of power you guys are claiming is just silly to me.



Not quite. There's no doubt in my mind that I'm putting down more power than a stock MSP.



I do. Frequently. I am a member of a couple of Suby/DSM boards. And they don't get anywhere NEAR 50% extra WHP with exhaust, 2psi, and an intake. In fact, go post the original post in this thread on nasioc.com so they can all laugh at you. If you want an example, I have a friend w/ a WRX...he took it to the track while stock and ran low 14's. Then he did an MKiii BPM 3" turbo back exhaust with an up-pipe, etc etc and a JoeP MBC (which allowed him to get better boost in 1st gear as well). He added 2psi. I did drop his 1/4 mile time (on RACE GAS) a bit...down to a 13.8 or so. But if it gave him anywhere NEAR 50% extra WHP (for basically the same mods that you guys are claiming did on our car) then it would have EASILY put him in the low 13's. Just an example.



??? What negativity? It's a great car.



Excuse me for not trusting the dyno sheet. We've already had more info come out of the woodwork with the "boost spiking", etc. That right there should show that things are a little sketchy since that detail was originally left out. Who knows what other variables we don't know about.

Hey, since we are comparing different cars here- I had a 91 TSI AWD with nothing more than a K&N, 2.5" cat back, hollowed cat and MBC at 19 psi (stock is 12 or so) and I ran 12.9@102.. I got a hell of a lot more than 50% .
Joe

 

[1sty]

Hey, since we are comparing different cars here- I had a 91 TSI AWD with nothing more than a K&N, 2.5" cat back, hollowed cat and MBC at 19 psi (stock is 12 or so) and I ran 12.9@102.. I got a hell of a lot more than 50% .
Joe

Sure with 7 more PSI. Not 2.

 

[PaulMP3]

Agreed. BUT, even Terry's ECU which is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR HIS CAR only pulled 210 or so whp with a 16g @ 8psi and a nice FMIC. It's facts like that which make the claim seem so unreasonable.

he also has a 3" exhaust.

 

[1sty]

Not to mention full tubular manifod.

 

[PaulMP3]

When was the last time their dyno was calibrated? (they do need to be calibrated right?)

 

[Vicocola]

IF ONLY I HAVE MONEY!!! i could have stop this thread already by buying this turbo-back... and do a dyno with/ without it!! and then we'll know... but i dun have any money.... so y dun yall just chill for a bit.. until the next person that does it and maybe everybody chip in a buck for him to dyno... and then we can really tell if its right or not... just dun piss our potential leet producer away i still want this thing in my car either way...

 

[yashooa]

Shazamm

This Mother Fu*ker is still going!
What to say what to say?
OMG I must be near death! For the first time in my life I am speechless.
Either that or my Ritalin is actually working.
Hmm maybe if I take 4 days worth at once.
(rant) (sad1) (nervous) (stoned)