77 Horsepower!

[orangezoom]

I will teel you whem I get mone I dynoed my car stock and Got what the factory said about 176 to flywheel I put an Injen intake on and I am not going to boost yet I put A greddy boost gauge in nmy pillar and it said I am running right around 7 pounds of boost stock. I ordered a Magnus exhaust because of there reputation and when I install it I will dyno again. I am not boosting till I get my manual from Mazda (which might take forever). I found that the fuel runs rich in some spots and lean in other. Once I get the manual and piggy back we should get some good results. Then comes the Boost

 

[tritonheat1]

To all the Believer's and non believer's, I think in some categories you are right on some subject's. But to really say that the MSP can't yield 77WHP gain's on a few simple mods, is ridiculous. I mean not to get off topic or nothing, but that's just like saying a RSX-S won't gain 30-35WHP to the wheels with just, CAI, Exhaust, header, and chip. There's really no comment on that one, when you know you can't doubt it. OK a N/A 4-cylinder with mod's just produced 30-35whp to the wheels. Ya you're right there will be no argument to what the RSX-S put down, because people already know that the Car produces 200Hp from the factory and because acura's/hondas are known for gaining hp with minor mods, because of it's nameplate. Now when the MSP steps in,it's like ohh okk it's a Protege MP3 with just a Garrett "tiny" T-25 turbo slapped on it. "NO, that's not how it work's. For the non-believer's that haven't seen a dyno sheet or a videolink or audio, i'm pretty sure that the tiny T-25 spools alot faster than a T3/T4 or any other TD04. I mean this has been discussed before and every member on this board knows what there car are capable of when you try to modify it or not, i mean yeah the MSP's 6.9PSI quote is like peaking steady for a second and most people are steady at 4.5-5.5psi,to jump to 9psi is alot of boost. I think that alone will add 35-45whp. also to add a 3''full dp exhaust and a K&N cone filter all together might add up to 77Whp i mean it's really not that hard to believe. We are talking about forced induction here no matter what kind of turbo it is, it will yield more gains than a N/A car will. look at Joe's 1/4mile #'s he's in the low 14's with minor Mod's i don't hear anyone complaining or whinning about his quarter mile time. Same with lawerence look at his sig, he is barely running slower than joe with minor mods and no one is complaining about his quarter time either. Look at what NcMp3 1/4mile time was 14.3@ 6pSI he has 3times the mods than Joe or lawerence and they are running 2-3psi more than ncMp3 and minor mod's and running the same 1/4mile time. So what's hard to believe???? That just tells you that the MSP is capable of doing better than a aftermarket TurboMP3 can do. look at the mods big-ben, spoolinMP3, NCMp3, Adam3425?? has. There times are not to far off of an MSP with Minor mods. catch my drift. Or do i have to break it down for some of you.

 

[Wesman]

Wow XSIVSPD has incited a riot on this thread, time to add my two cents. I have had a ride in his car and have played chase with him for 100 miles, +77 hp is entirely on the level. I have also seen the dyno sheet. My car with two little mods (XZ MBC & FPR) has become almost unrecognizable with the hammer down (thanks JoeP). Angry is the term that I would use to describe it. As fun as mine is, XSIVSPD's car can take off from me even with extra people in his car. We played chase from zero to the limiter and acceleration above 100mph is stunning. The sound from his exhaust is great too, think WRC rally car. No hard numbers, but watching taillights get smaller makes you a believer. HP is fun.

 

[subaruwrx]

Woah, the NA mp3 guys are pretty lame. Its easier to get power from a Turbo car.

Why are you getting so pissed?

Joe is right. You cannot just add up 40 hp (~10 hp for each psi) for the boost, 20 for the exhaust and 5 for the intake. Its how everything works together. The intake will make the exhaust work more efficiently. Thinking about it, this is not such an outrageous claim. True? I dont know. I dont care. It is possible. How is that so hard to believe?

Also, 1st, please do a spell check and grammar check before posting. It makes you sound stupid when you are using words that dont exist.
--Adam

 

[low_psi]

getting a racing beat turbo back exhaust(may be another brand) yields 62whp on an FC TurboII Rx-7. you have to have a damn fuel cut defender cause it increases the boost soo much. the fact is, his numbers aren't lying. similar numbers have been made on small motor, small turbo, low boost(under 1bar) setups so why can't you believe it on a msp?

joe makes a good point too, its only 223, nothing that's gonna be smoking a SS camaro

 

[1sty]

Woah, the NA mp3 guys are pretty lame. Its easier to get power from a Turbo car.

Why are you getting so pissed?

Joe is right. You cannot just add up 40 hp (~10 hp for each psi) for the boost, 20 for the exhaust and 5 for the intake. Its how everything works together. The intake will make the exhaust work more efficiently. Thinking about it, this is not such an outrageous claim. True? I dont know. I dont care. It is possible. How is that so hard to believe?

Also, 1st, please do a spell check and grammar check before posting. It makes you sound stupid when you are using words that dont exist.
--Adam

What about the TURBO MP3 guys?
Why don't you spell check for me, you can be my new secretary.

 

[Kooldino]

Bumping an old thread just so you guys can see how silly it was.

 

[kwiktsi]

Bumping an old thread just so you guys can see how silly it was.

Oh boy... Here we go-"he's lying", "his car is slow", "there is NO WAY"... Lol, it is pretty dumb looking back as it has been repeated several times .
Joe

 

[low_psi]

MEMORIES!!!

 

[Notorious]

I seen 50 hp increase with nothing but increasing the boost to 11 psi.

 

[lamp3]

did his dyno ever get posted in that mess??

 

[skilletrx]

lol dammit.. i jus spent 30 min going thru each page lookin for the dyno =(

 

[girth]

Ahhh, one of my favorite threads of all time. It's even funnier now that there have been some unkind words from people around here about MagnusMotorsports.

 

[chitownballer]

joe is right all the way, i dynoed my car at 212 whp with MBC at 9.5psi, intake and d/p

 

[Black Majik MSP]

Can't believe I just read 16 pages of arguing only to realize this thread started months ago.

1. This has been asked numerous times, but did that dyno ever get posted?

2. Does anyone have pics of the muffler? I'd like to know what a slash cut 4" tip looks like.

3. The MM exhaust has the adaptor to hook up to the stock dp, so you still need to replace that too, right?

 

[YuYuRena]

Hey Joe is actually posting alot again. is it because of that mustang not giving you enough trouble? or you're missing the MSP crowd??

About this subject, this "result" is very subjective. First no one on this board has shown me a validated Compressor and Turbine map. I can not vouch nor disclaim the result withou knowing how the performance of this turbo is at with the given amount of work from the exhaust stream translated into pressure ratio and flow capacity. I don't think you guys should get on this guy, maybe he was able to run this car on a dyno that has a bias for higher dyno #, or ran on a day that has a more 'favorable' weather than the mag dyno at. let's have some love on the board and cheer him on for actually making and developing parts for MSP.

Keep up the good work and can't wait to hear more about it.

 

[kwiktsi]

Ahhh, one of my favorite threads of all time. It's even funnier now that there have been some unkind words from people around here about MagnusMotorsports.

What has happened with Magnus? They have a very good reputation that I am aware of and Marco is a really cool guy to deal with
Joe

 

[kwiktsi]

Hey Joe is actually posting alot again. is it because of that mustang not giving you enough trouble? or you're missing the MSP crowd??

naahh, just had some spare time finally.
Joe

 

[Karl Marx]

Arg.. damn bumps .. i read through the whole thing wanting to find out more info....
god its a sad thread... all the bitching going on and at the end theres no proof of right or wrong.

Btw isn't Magnus those guys that some people here got a exhaust from that didn't fit?

So if this is an old thread, i guess there's alot of 223 whp MSP's running around that made these mods since they are really cheap. No? ( Edit: Sarcasm ).

 

[505zoom]

WHY GOD WHY!?!?!?!

This thread is crap. Some of you made the statement that there was no resolution? Well in my eyes, there is no question that a 77hp gain is :bs:

He did not baseline the car and that makes these runs totally worthless. He uses a baseline from another car and says that he gained 77hp what a joke.

While it might be possible to put down 223whp with these mods, xsivspd and magnus prove how foolish they are by comparing their own #'s with some that are from a different car, taken from a different dyno, hell it was even in a completely different city, state, and country. Do you think that the conditions in California are at all comparable to Ontario???

I have the Magnus exhaust. It sounds great, but I don't see any reason that a 77hp gain should be mentioned in a thread about your exhaust, when you say you also have a mbc, intake etc. Your exhaust did not add 77hp to your car.

Had you done a baseline with YOUR CAR, WITHOUT THE EXHAUST on the dyno in Scarborough, then you would have some #'s to make a comparison with. Hell you could have even just entitled this thread "223whp".