505 Intake Manifold COMPLETED!

[magnumP5]

honestly yes from my experiance.. this is a week spot.. what happens when one of these cracks? will you hold full responsability? jb weld no thanks this is a trick used yes.. but i would not use it in a daily driver.. where it meets fuel continuously.. if it manages a way to get sucked in to the motor and destroys my valve and piston no thanks.. this will cause air pockets i cant even port it out due to unknown thickness of runner.. i see my self filling in the gap tig welded and putting new injector bungs..

Look, I'm not trying to start s***, but what do you mean "this is a weak spot"? How do you KNOW one of these will crack? Sure, that location isn't as strong as it COULD be, but I don't see it being as big an issue as you say. There are several ways of showing this that all involve stress analyses, how much boost you're running, the weight and interior surface area of the manifold and the properties of the weld material, etc. I don't see these manifolds failing given the conditions in which they are going to be run.

Regarding JB weld I had some in my 626 manifold (VTCS delete) on my daily-driver turbocharged Protege for over 2 years of 10 psi and not a single problem.

The point is, you bought a manifold that was designed and hand made from the ground up for reasonable production numbers by a few individuals. This is not a one-off manifold that took 1000 hours of work to complete, nor is this something mass produced by robots in a factory in Japan...

 

[blueprotegelx]

I used JB Weld on my stock intake mani as well when I removed VTCS. 10psi here as well and no issues....

 

[blazinrola80]

nither are the other ones so ease back i kno what i payed for and what i payed for has a flaw as for me i will be running 20+ psi... thats fine if you think jb is sufficient enuff.. im not doing it...point blank take it how you want it.. i should even have tro be fixing a 999 manifold dont you think... i kno this is a week spot for ppl in this sport making things in there back yard.. its the vibrations (think about how much our mounts cause) that will hurt it.. its .025.. look up the other manifolds i have are all hand made and do not exceed $600 and they are flawless. am i complaning about price no.. quality.yes. the runners could have been made truer.. as they were welded the moved .. yes metal moves due to heat...(this could have been prevented from giving it a few welds on the inside then porting) take a basic welding lesson and you will learn.. and its not my first manifold.. it might be the first for this car but not my first...

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

UPS, did that. Me and Rich already have it worked out and UPS is picking it up today. But I looked at my manifold and all my runners set flush with the flange.

 

[blazinrola80]

UPS, did that. Me and Rich already have it worked out and UPS is picking it up today. But I looked at my manifold and all my runners set flush with the flange.

cool... i wouldnt dout some runners are flush some arent.. it looks rushed.. i can tell on a seam of mine he heated it to much... big indents..

 

[jamesk]

Look, I'm not trying to start s***, but what do you mean "this is a weak spot"? How do you KNOW one of these will crack? Sure, that location isn't as strong as it COULD be, but I don't see it being as big an issue as you say. There are several ways of showing this that all involve stress analyses, how much boost you're running, the weight and interior surface area of the manifold and the properties of the weld material, etc. I don't see these manifolds failing given the conditions in which they are going to be run.

Regarding JB weld I had some in my 626 manifold (VTCS delete) on my daily-driver turbocharged Protege for over 2 years of 10 psi and not a single problem.

The point is, you bought a manifold that was designed and hand made from the ground up for reasonable production numbers by a few individuals. This is not a one-off manifold that took 1000 hours of work to complete, nor is this something mass produced by robots in a factory in Japan...

I am not saying anything bad regarding the manifold, but just reading your post, I feel you are missing the point.

It does not matter where or how the manifold was made. Think of it as the price. When you pay $1000 for a manifold, you expect the quality of the manifold to show $1000. He is trying to say that compared to the less expensive manifolds he has dealt with in the past, the quality of the work seems to be more superior than the $1000 manifold.

Just because these manifolds were handmade should not excuse less quality. It might mean that the price of the manifold will be more and it might also mean that the manifolds might vary, but that does NOT mean there should be more room for error. The same idea applies to buying a Ferrari. Your buying the hand made piece of machinery to expect higher expectations not less.

Again I am stating a broad point and this has nothing to do with this particular manifold. I have not seen one or ordered one. I just wanted to help the other guys point.

 

[jamesk]

And who ever bought something should not pay top dollar so they can go home and fix it with some jb weld. That sounds a little weird to me.

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

THIS IS WHAT DREAMS ARE ******* MADE OFF !!!!​

I just can't say anything else.. This is just to ******* Much.. INSANE !!!!​

Judge your self, and ENJOY !!!!​

Added my Mazdaspeed Performance Accessories Stickers for legal Purposes lol lol lol...​

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Thank You RICH, you are Simply the ******* MAN, no matter what others say.. this thing Rocks ******* hardcore.. btw my Intake Manifold Is FLAWLESS no matter where and how you see it​

 

[MakeMeGoFast]

I was wondering is you were gonna add the Mazdaspeed sticker. lol

 

[Mazdaspeed2oo35]

I was wondering is you were gonna add the Mazdaspeed sticker. lol

if you know my story you know i had to !!!! lol lol

 

[jamesk]

That does look sick. What is that extra bracket in the middle?

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

That does look sick. What is that extra bracket in the middle?

because it's added security cuz he's going for 1million whp

 

[505zoom]

Sorry again guys I can only jump on here once per day right now until my computer is fixed. I just got caught up on PM's and have to run here, so I don't have enough time to reply to every post.

blazin - Hopefully one of the solutions in my PM is acceptable to you. Let me know.

miguel - Pumped yours got overseas safely. I hate how that coating looks in flash pics, underhood in most lighting it should look pretty close to titanium. I hope.

Everyone - I want to specifically address the integrity concerns by pointing out a couple things.

Back when we made the prototype, we didn't have any of the fixtures or jigs or anything that we used to make the production pieces. One of these things we used were 4 oval steel "plugs" that fit snugly into the main flange ports. These soak up the heat on the inside of the pipe and minimize any "eating away" of the pipe there where it meets the flange. Since these were not used on the proto, there ended up being HUGE gaps there. Like 3-4 times the width of ANY of the production pieces.

That manifold has been run on my car for almost a year and a half. My car has solid mounts on all 4 sides. It was also the manifold used for ALL testing, including AFR per cylinder testing, AND the dyno testing.

Hope this helps settle any concerns about them being "weak" there.

-Rich

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

, and he speaks! But that is nice to know that yours pulled far away and it has never had any problems.

 

[2.0t03speed]

Ok i figured it was time for me to bring a little positivity to this thread with all the runner woes that have been going on lately. I've been running the manifold for about 2 weeks now daily driving to work and back (about 50 miles round trip) and this thing is AWESOME!!!! It really has nothing to do with the overall power gain it has to do with the gain I've gotten in driveability. Normally cruising on the interstate in 5th @ 60mph if i gave it 1/4 to 1/2 throttle and got into boost i would get this sort of hesitation like it was holding back. Now with the new manifold that's totally gone it goes when i want it to and does it smoothly with no bog. Now let's get onto the power. I'm running 8 psi on the stock 25r w/ turbolife fmic,custom sri,sls 2.5" j&mid (catless), and a jdm intake cam. As you can see I'm basically a bolt-on msp running off the stock ecu. Before the intake mani id drop it in 2nd gear @40mph and stomp it and id get a instant burst of power and then it would fall off as i got higher up in the rpm's so much that it would make me not want to punch it in 3rd unless i was allready running it out through 2nd because the power in 3rd couldn't hold a candle to the power in 2nd. Now post intake manifold that has drastically changed now when i stomp it in 2nd @ 40mph i get a burst of power but it doesn't stop it keeps building all the way till redline it never let's off it never planes out. I seriously feel like I've upgraded to a t3 50 trim the way this thing keeps pulling in top end. I can't stress enough how much this manifold has transformed my midrange/topend powerband. Not only that but i just so happened to be on the phone w/ Rich the other day while driving and i figured why not i dropped it into 3rd and slowed it down to about 2.5-3k in 3rd and floored it to my surprise it just went i had no bog none of the holding back feeling no nothing just a nice smooth pull. It amazed me that was the single best low rpm 3rd gear pull i have ever gotten out of my car. Not only has this mani added power and driveability to my car but it's also added one more thing and that's CONSISTENCY. Even with my turbolife id still bog sometimes when going full throttle id still have it hesitate sometimes. So far i've probably done 25+ full throttle pulls at 8 psi and they all have felt exactly the same (except for last night when it dropped down to 50deg. hehe) no bog no hesitation just power. I push the pedal down it throws me back and keeps pushing me back in my seat more and more the further it gets up in the rpm range. If it does this with my stock 25r you big turbo guys are going to love this manifold.

cliff notes for those of you who hate reading long posts:
stock mani sucks
Rich's mani pwns

 

[jonridinhi]

I want a ride

 

[2.0t03speed]

Any time man you got my number lol. i got Brian coming back down next Saturday so we can pull the mani back off and fix my spot where its leaking. If you want you can come on by and get a ride in it after my vac leak is fixed.

 

[jonridinhi]

I will have to see. I was impressed with it in my hand I can not wait to see it installed. I may be going to Richmond then I will have to see.

 

[2.0t03speed]

ahh man it looks so awesome installed. just need to fix this one tiny vac leak and it will be perfect.

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

Pics, or BAN!