2010 SPEED3 burnt clutch?????!!!!!!

ok, I need some education here:
How does a disengaged (clutch pedal depressed) cause a clutch disc to spin at 70,000rpm? As long as the clutch disc is not pressed against the flywheel, then it should only be spinning as fast as it was when the clutch was previously engaged in whatever gear it used to be in, with a gradual decrease in speed until the clutch is re-engaged.
 
1st you need to understand there are three major parts to the clutch in your car. The flywheel, the pressure plate and the friction disk. The pressure plate and flywheel are bolted together and attached to the engine crankshaft. The friction disk sits between the flywheel and pressure plate. When you have the clutch disengaged (foot in on pedal) the pressure plate and flywheel separate allowing the friction disk to spin freely with the input shaft of the transmission. When you are stopped or in neutral, the friction disk can slow down and even stop turning. When you are moving, the input shaft of the transmission, and therefore the friction disk, will turn at whatever the gear ratio and speed of the car dictate. So, if your car is geared such that at 30 MPH in 1st gear, the engine would be at redline, when your car is traveling 60 MPH and your shift into 1st gear, the input shaft and friction disk will now be turning at twice the redline RPM of your engine(with the clutch disengaged). At 70 MPH, I am estimating somewhere around 16,000. That creates a huge centripital force on the friction disk and they can (and do) explode with violent force under these kind of abusive conditions.

Drag racing cars are required to have a "scatter sheild" (the equivalent of a bullet proof vest) wrapped around the bell housing to prevent pieces of an exploding friction disk from killing the driver. I am assuming your car has no scatter shield, so if it blows there is a good chance that pieces will come right through the aluminum bell housing and right through the firewall of the car. You can do the math yourself, but at 16,000 RPM an 8 inch diameter disk will have nearly the same velocity as a 45 caliber hand gun. And the chunks will likely be more massive than the bullet from that gun.
 
I wasnt saying that you should do this I am saying it is possible, unlike OTHER cars where you cannot get into 1st gear without serious amounts of force on the shifter itself to where you should know you are forcing it in. Im saying with these new transmissions it simply goes in without any more force than any other speed/gear change.

This was towards some statements saying that was was no way without obviously forcing the shifter to get into first gear to smoke OP's clutch.

Edit: Like for instance, my '01 protege - If you "leaned" on the shifter coasting at 25 it would not go in until you got down to around 12-15 mph. In my FB and my FC this is similar speeds.
 
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I wasnt saying that you should do this I am saying it is possible, unlike OTHER cars where you cannot get into 1st gear without serious amounts of force on the shifter itself to where you should know you are forcing it in. Im saying with these new transmissions it simply goes in without any more force than any other speed/gear change.

This was towards some statements saying that was was no way without obviously forcing the shifter to get into first gear to smoke OP's clutch.

Edit: Like for instance, my '01 protege - If you "leaned" on the shifter coasting at 25 it would not go in until you got down to around 12-15 mph. In my FB and my FC this is similar speeds.

There's a lockout for first at given speeds... I've noticed it on several cars. A Jetta I drove also had the gear lockouts in place unless the clutch was COMPLETELY floored, not just disengaged.

RE: Burning up clutch

If you ride around with your left foot always on the clutch you could be causing it to slip constantly, which will ruin it in no time at all. It could also be a mechanical defect resulting in the same condition.
 
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Sounds like a factory build problem. Strangely enough, my new '09 MS3 purchased 7 weeks ago with only 1800 EZ miles on it is now leaking from the passenger side mid-axle seal. So, I'm so far not thrilled with the factory build folks.
 
I dont understand why someone would attempt to put it in first gear going 70mph. You said you would not let the clutch out so you were not retarded. What should we label it then?
 
Hey guys, i just got a 2007 Mazdaspeed 6 its a great car, i have no problems.. this is my first manual transmission and i am a little slow getting into first gear just because im overly careful and ive rev'd it up to about 2500 rpms and let the clutch out REALLY slow and it started to smell really bad after a couple of times doing that.. it still drives smoothly like nothing is wrong.. does anyone have any idea of what that smell is.. or any advice on what to do? Thanks.
 
Hey guys, i just got a 2007 Mazdaspeed 6 its a great car, i have no problems.. this is my first manual transmission and i am a little slow getting into first gear just because im overly careful and ive rev'd it up to about 2500 rpms and let the clutch out REALLY slow and it started to smell really bad after a couple of times doing that.. it still drives smoothly like nothing is wrong.. does anyone have any idea of what that smell is.. or any advice on what to do? Thanks.

Well depending upon how slow you are letting it out, that is burning the clutch. I mean there are instances when you can't help but put some stress on it (hills). IMO that is kind of high for normal take offs. I mean, I am sure I am considered a little slow off the line as I am only revving it enough to make it go. But everyone has different techniques. My 2010 is my first manual since learning to drive 11 years ago. If you are trying to launch it, it's better to let it out faster as worn out tires are cheaper than a new clutch.
 
Thanks for the input.. im on my 3rd day of driving my speed6 ive gotten much better at timing when the clutch will grab and now im letting it grab around 1,500-2,000 rpms and still getting better.. no more clutch burning and nasty smell for me : ).
 
2500 is a high RPM IMO to be starting out in. Try learning how to let the clutch out with your foot no where near the gas. Once you get that down you will learn how to incorporate the throttle into that scenario without clutch slipeage to that degree...
 

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