2008.5 Speed3 or 2006 Audi A4 Avant 2.0T looking for enthusiats feedback
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mrlilguy157
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my best friend actually just bought an 06 a4 2.0t, fully loaded FWD model for $22.5 out the door. i love the car, and if i wasn't a speed demon at heart, that's what i'd be in. its definately got the business class, and it feels amazing behind the wheel. the leather seat heaters are great too. Your choice, just depends on what you really want.
Don't blame you there. . . it's one of my pet peeves too.
Anyway, I just have to admit that the Audi has a lot of little details that make it "nicer". I especially like the ambient amber lighting to all the buttons being illuminated at night (I mean all of them, even in the doors, vents & steering wheel). There's no "guessing" where things are. Plus the gauges are actually illuminated from behind (backlit) as opposed to the MS3s blue LED being shined onto the gauge itself (reflected off the gauge). I also like the sport steering wheel with the extra wide grips at the 2 & 10 O' Clock positions (not sure if it's on the A4, but it is on the VW R32, GTI, & Audi TT).
But I guess that difference in price makes it possible. Still the MS3 is an excellent value and great overall car.
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Absolutely without a doubt the most sensible post here imo. You have people talking about interior quality and gizmos. Well folks, you pay for that.
The ms3 has all the gizmos it needs in its price class. If I wanted something with no rattles, creaks, and all the bells and whistles, and nice pretty lights at night (half of which are probably useless and just a distraction anyway) I'd go with a Lexus, Acura or BMW to name a few.
Then we have people talking about the disi's lack of an aftermarket. Well what do you expect for an engine that's a couple years old? The aftermarket will come in time. Also, mazdaspeeds are limited production cars so companies aren't gonna rush to make products for them, it's just business sense. I will say for the little time the ms3 has been out, it has gained a lot of attention from the tuning world and there are some decent products on the horizon.
The fact that the ms3 is constantly being compared to cars a lot more expensive speaks volumes about its abilities.
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- 2011 Mustang GT
I see more parts for the 2.3 MZR turbo than I did for my 2.0 FSDE out of my Protege. Seeing as how the 2.0 had been out longer, I think that speaks for itself.
Engineer420
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- 2007 Mazdaspeed3 GT Black Mica
I don't get the rear fog light thing..cuz the break lights don't work (except for the third one in the window) when its switched on..which really kinda makes no sense to me cuz how can you drive around without brake lights?..fog or no fog.
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Some euro cars only have the rear fog light on one of the tails, and it's usually on a light that isn't a two-stage bulb. That way, when you hit the pedal, all three lights come on.
fastdreams
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- 2008 MS3
What that tells me is that aftermarket for the 2.0FSDE in your Protege is next to non-existent. Which speaks to me about the engine not considered by tuning companies to have enough of an enthusiast market to put forth the effort of making parts for it. It's all about the money, if they don't see enough money in it, they won't put forth the effort.
I also think the relative newness and so far few production numbers of the 2.3t is why the aftermarket is still weak, but I have faith it will get much better. It just takes time.
I can understand your perspective coming from a different mazda with even less aftermarket, but I'm looking at different makes, specifically Audi for this comparison.
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Just another suggestion, since you need a wagon, why not consider the 6 wagon with the V6 in it? They're giving crazy rebates on those as well.
As for the engine stuff, I think that 4 years ago, most people didn't even think of Mazda as being worthwhile in terms of aftermarket. Since the inception of the 2.3 MZR, tons of companies have started making products for them. With Ford going to the EcoBoost line in the next 5 years, the DISI/turbo engines should take off even more, since Ford will probably utilize a detuned version of this engine in some vehicle at a later date.
Audi's are great engines, and since they're used in the VW lines as well, gives the aftermarket companies a good opportunity to make a product that applies to multiple vehicles. I think we'll see that from Mazda/Ford as well.
As for the engine stuff, I think that 4 years ago, most people didn't even think of Mazda as being worthwhile in terms of aftermarket. Since the inception of the 2.3 MZR, tons of companies have started making products for them. With Ford going to the EcoBoost line in the next 5 years, the DISI/turbo engines should take off even more, since Ford will probably utilize a detuned version of this engine in some vehicle at a later date.
Audi's are great engines, and since they're used in the VW lines as well, gives the aftermarket companies a good opportunity to make a product that applies to multiple vehicles. I think we'll see that from Mazda/Ford as well.
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Ha, didn't even think about that. I know that V6 has a decent amount of power so I thought it might be a valid alternative, but I realize your point.
