2003.5 Custom Fog Light Kit

[www.03msp.com]

All:

There have been numerous posts/threadjacks regarding 2003.5 installations of fog lights.

I have removed all of my posts as we have refined what we feel is a good offering and did not want to over-confuse anyone.

We are in the process of incorporating ourselves as well as offering up a direct-linked web site.

You can take a look at http://www.rtekimports.com/mazda/products.htm to find out more information.

Once we have incorporated ourselves, I will request the mods on the list here to set me up as an official vendor - but until then, we still have the offering and just have to go through the paperwork.

I am open to any questions/comments regarding our offering.

Note: We are revising our pictures as the light is now "centered" versus what is found in the installation instructions.

 

[Brian MP5T]

Nice, Should be alot of interest. I have stock lights on my P5. They don't do alot but I got used to them and now they are on all the time.

Later...Brian

(burnout)

 

[saided18]

would you sell that barket separtely?

 

[www.03msp.com]

We originally were going to just sell the brackets. Though we had thought it would be more advantageous to sell the entire kit.

However, we could sell the brackets at $25.00/shipped per set for those interested.

The brackets are the most labor intensive part of the entire set and are truly designed around this fog light. If the demand is great enough, I can have them mass produced for a bit less.

- Brian

 

[II-Savy]

This looks kinda cool, but I noticed the install has an unfinished (nice way to say crappy) look during the day. Any fix for that?

90 sounds a bit steep...I can't find those kinds of lights anywhere.

 

[enigM@]

would u have the hella angels available in the kit?

 

[www.03msp.com]

Thank you for reserving yourself regarding the day shots. Yes, the lights are now centered (need to provide more professional shots).

In addition, we are working on a rear covering for that as well. Ideally we are trying to match 4.5" foglights (can't find the right set yet) and then we would have no need for the rear covering.

Also, these lights are "not" readily available everywhere and are the only ones that we have found that do work in the bracket configuration with no major cutting/drilling/etc.

Our full intent is to make it as quick and easy as possible.

We believe that $90.00 for a complete kit shipped is extremely competitive since it is not "universal" and is a specific application. Take a look at similiar kits made for cars. They are $150.00 + aftermarket (needing modification) or $300.00 from the dealer.

- Brian

 

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The key to our kit is centered rear mounting on the fog light versus top/bottom mounting (does not provide for clearance). The Hella Angel Eyes will not fit and do not fall into this category, nor does the PIAA (40's, 520's, etc.) style of lights.

 

[II-Savy]

"In addition, we are working on a rear covering for that as well. Ideally we are trying to match 4.5" foglights (can't find the right set yet) and then we would have no need for the rear covering. "

Very cool. So you are looking for 4.5 inch fogs, I'll look too see what I can find.

 

[kevducridr]

These look pretty good except for the daylight appearance. Wouldn't it be possible to cut out the plastic grill inserts and remount them behind the lamp? Otherwise there needs to be something back there.

 

[www.03msp.com]

Okay, two stabs...

a) We are looking for a 4.5" fog/driving light that is no more than 3-3.5" (front to back depth) and mounts in the center (i.e. a screw on each side center diameter). We CAN NOT use mounts on the bottom or top of the housing.

b) I don't think you realize, but these lights are very much tucked into the opening and if we put the grille inserts back in the light would be pushed out 1.5 inches. That's why we discarded the inserts.

 

[kevducridr]

I'm not being overly critical. I am just asking, because its hard to make out on the instruction pics and because I wasn't there when they were designed. I do like it, I am a huge foglight fan from my P5. I am bummed Mazda didn't include them on the 3.5 MSP in some form. Besides your price is fair considering you're doing all the hard work making the brackets.

P.S. Can you get them in Amber?

 

[enigM@]

The Hella Angel Eyes will not fit and do not fall into this category, nor does the PIAA (40's, 520's, etc.) style of lights.

Hellas don't fit??

they look like the same size to me

 

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I apologize if anyone thought that I was interrogating them. We have put a lot of effort into making a design that was flawless with the assembly, yet flawed because of the way the Mazda engineered the damn air vent covers (unecessary holes). They could have put rear pressure clips in and would have solved many problems that we ran into. Changing the H3 bulb to a different color + the blue coating should give you the result of amber that you need. We are not planning on selling them this way as they are bright as heck to start off with.

 

[www.03msp.com]

Hella's do not fit due to the mounting on the top of the light in the picture you show. It is not a rear mount. This extra mount adds to the diameter and therefore will not be "tucked in" as ours is. Look at that same thread for a side angle and read the guys comments about "nearly enough room".

- Brian

 

[Newf]

amazing effort going into this, and I'm sure I'm not the only one appreciating it. Personally, I think the price is right on.

I would be extremely interested in a 4.5" fog light kit. AS it is right now, it does look a little too small, and somewhat unfinished. Considering what you've done so far, I can't wait to see the larger lense.

Ever consider getting a simple black piece of plastic to put behind the light to make it look complete? I think if you tried to color match it, it might look a little off, and maybe silly. But, lot of cars have a little black pastic around the fogs and it looks fine.

I haven't kept up with this thread sorry if this was asked already.

 

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All:

Much appreciated.

Actually, in the original development we utilized the rear part of the grille insert and put that on. Though, there was holes in that to attach to the lip and in it as well to the front of the grille insert. We liked that. We had it in for quite some time, though, it still was "eeeh". We actually designed a template, cut some ABS plastic and made a surrounding, but that was "eeeh" and not molded and way too much effort.

My brain is spinning right now because we have not been able to find a 4.5" center mount anywhere.

I may have to succumb to getting a top/bottom mount, and making an additional bracket that would affix to that light and our custom bracket (which is really needed) as well. Though, no matter what, the light would stick out at least 1" more (hmmm). Heck, all the wiring is done, it would just be some design/bench time. It shouldn't bee too hard, it's just finding the right light - again, may the research being. I would rather have a 4.5" light to fill as much as the "gap" as possible.

Remember, I was the one that came up with how to put the PIAA 40's (6.5" lights) into the P5 and man, talk about spot lights -- I really miss them right now (this time of year being dark).

- Brian

 

[Brian MP5T]

If a person has a problem with the look of the lights during the day a thought would be like the WRX STI. There are covers over the lights that match the body colour. I think it looks good and also protects the light during the day.

Later...Brian

 

[II-Savy]

Covers are a pain in the ass. It's -28 today with the wind chill, who will go out there in the dark and take covers off to use the lights.

I sent zmzmp5 two possibilities for lights but have not heard back.

 

[www.03msp.com]

To much effort to develop rear/front covers/moldings.

Will go back to my notes and research a few fogs. Guys, I have spent weeks doing this. I will have to reevaluate a few other "choices" that I had ruled out and figure things out.

Give me a day or so.

On another note, for those interested in the current kit, I have five kits available, I will sell them all at $75.00 shipped to those who are interested!

- Brian