Hi again! OK, some people may agree with the way the buttons for the power windows work, but I don't. I've had my P5 for 2 weeks and can't get used to the (IN MY OPINION) backwards mapping. I want it to be so that if I pull the window button towards me (backward motion) then the windows will open and if I push the button down (forward motion) the windows will close. I see it like the scroll wheel on a mouse. If you roll the wheen back, the mouse curser or whatever will go downward and vice-versa. I'm not new to electronics, so I'm positive it's a simple switching of the wires, but I want to know if there's some unforeseen reason why it cannot be done. Also, does anybody maybe have pics of the switch and instructions on how to get to the switches? THANKS!...I love you guys.... hehehe
How to reverse-wire window switches...
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MikeBlueP5
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the silver piece pops up on the back and has a slide fitting in the front. in other words carefully pop the back of the silver trim up and slide it back.theres all your wire harnesses and switches.
Last I checked there is a circuit board in the window switches so it might not be as easy as a simple wire switching. The reason most cars window switches function this way nowadays is a safety reason. Picture a baby standing on the window switches with it's head out the window. The next time that happens in your car, with your rewiring, the baby will be decapitated. If that's what you want, go right ahead 
Of course I'm sorta kidding and sorta not.
Of course I'm sorta kidding and sorta not.
Mazdaspeed989
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and who is this person letting their baby stand with their head out the window? besides if it went down when they stepped on it it would allow them to fall out...
Mazdaspeed989
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zverg said:Yeah, but if they fall out it is the fault of the parents not the car.
You don't let your baby stand with their head out the window? (thumb)
Carmakers gotta do as much as possible to avoid getting sued by a bunch of lazy negligent Americans.
Haha, well i don't have a baby but i think my parents may have let me do that...would explain a few things
I wish I had a baby so I could close it in the moonroof and be like "OMG WTF MAZDA THAT WASN'T THE CLOSE BUTTON" and make millions!
That's probably going to put someone over the edge. Really, I'm just kidding. Killing living creatures is no fun, even if they do have delicious stem cells.
ok I really need to get off the forums before I offend someone really badly haha.
That's probably going to put someone over the edge. Really, I'm just kidding. Killing living creatures is no fun, even if they do have delicious stem cells.
ok I really need to get off the forums before I offend someone really badly haha.
so i post a question in this forum in the morning and check-in late at night and this...THIS is what you guys are talking about?? decapitating babies that bounce on the window console??! You sick bastards...I LOVE YOU!! hehehe. guess i didn't think of babies bouncing on the buttons, but i don't have kids. and kids under (i forgot what age) must be strapped-in a car-seat. but yeah, i see your points. this is why i posted the question...to see something i may have missed. well thank you all for your answers and comments. i'll take a peek at the inside wiring tomorrow and see if it's easy or not and decide then. THANKS!
I tried my hand at reverse wiring the lock out switch. I used the wiring diagram too.
Tried a few combinations of re-wiring the plug in harness.
No success, but then again I'm not an electronics genius.
IIRC, I think that I did "mess" up and reversed the window operation when using the switch just like Weborific asked. I believe that I had to reverse the positive wires with the negatives in the plug in harness. Don't remember if I had to do it for all the windows.
Don't trust this info b/c it was last summer since I tried it and I'm not 100% sure.
Tried a few combinations of re-wiring the plug in harness.
No success, but then again I'm not an electronics genius.
IIRC, I think that I did "mess" up and reversed the window operation when using the switch just like Weborific asked. I believe that I had to reverse the positive wires with the negatives in the plug in harness. Don't remember if I had to do it for all the windows.
Don't trust this info b/c it was last summer since I tried it and I'm not 100% sure.
AbsoluteSwed
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two words, window lock
Come to think of it, the windows won't be functional if the key isn't in the car and turned to position 2 ( it THINK it's 2). So... I'd have to:
A) Have a kid
B) Have the kid NOT strapped into a car-seat
C) leave the keys in the ignition and in position 2
....yeah, i don't think kids will be a problem! I'll take pics if i decide to do it. My multimeter will make it easy from an understanding point of view, but there may be a few surprises in the installation department. Am I the only one who feels the button mapping is incorrect or is it jusy me?
A) Have a kid
B) Have the kid NOT strapped into a car-seat
C) leave the keys in the ignition and in position 2
....yeah, i don't think kids will be a problem! I'll take pics if i decide to do it. My multimeter will make it easy from an understanding point of view, but there may be a few surprises in the installation department. Am I the only one who feels the button mapping is incorrect or is it jusy me?
Weborific said:
Isn't that NSFW, nevermind really bloody and gross? Like this emoticon but with an infant (deadhorse)
I need sleep.
Oh and as far as I can tell you are the only one who thinks the mapping is incorrect. I think of it as "push down to make the window go down" "pull up to make the window come up".
If more people thought it was incorrect I think automakers would think of a better solution. Of course I base this all on nothing, maybe I'm the only one that likes it the way it is
Yeah, I've got a friend of mine that also sees it that way. Up for window up and down for window down. But I still see it as a mouse thing. So if mentally the window switch was installed UPRIGHT on each window, the direction you point with the button should be where you'd like the window to go... I made a sketch of how I see it and don't see why in a day where it's all about computers, few people see it in this way. Dunno, maybe it's just me. And I'm not trying to offend. I just see it differently....
