Intake manifold gasket/ spacer

I won't know anything for a couple days. All a matter of when the shop gets to cutting the first samples as part of their tests. Then I'll get a quote, pull in material, and get the first set cut. But I will keep you guys updated as best as I can!

Thanks,

Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
 
Got word back from the machine shop. I'll have my prototypes on Monday I guess, so about 6 days from now. Then I'll find out what the lead time is going to be and test fit the protos for you guys. Then we'll be set to go at that point.

Later!

Steve
sale@nsnmotorsports.com
 
Not yet... I will consider it feasible if I can hit a price for you guys in between 40 and 80 bucks... anything above that isn't worth it in the least... but I should know more on Monday when I get the protos. There is a strict setup fee that I have to pay every time I want to run a batch... then there is a machine rental/hour fee I have to pay (something like 120 - 200+ an hour) plus materials. That I have to divide out each time based on the number of parts I get made, and then any other expenses. So that's where the feasibility comes from. If I can do it for you guys in that range then we are golden, and I'll aim as low as I can get us... anything above that range and even the high end of it I consider to be unreasonably expensive unless I hear otherwise from you guys.

Thanks!

Steve
 

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Nope :) Tinted! Adds an extra 4 hp just for being tinted right there! LOL :) But seriously there are claims on the market of the part adding as much as 3 or 4 horse on an FS 2.0L. Whether or not that is true, I don't know or really care that much. I know it is beneficial from a standpoint that it helps reduce manifold and TB temperatures and thus keeps the intake charge that much cooler which is beneficial against detonation and also for better performance from a denser intake charge.
 
Im interested in this as well. So this kit will fit better and keep the intake charge cooler then the outlaw engineering kit? Also will you be including a coolant bypass mod as well?
 
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Also will you be including a coolant bypass mod as well?
It's a totally free mod if you take time to look at the TB. It's kind of hard to get to, but I removed the bottom hose altogether and just looped the top hose to where the bottom one recirculated back to the upper coolant hose. (yippy) TB bypassed absolutely free and in 30 minutes (yippy) now that I've got the IC water sprayer, I've looped hoses from the pump through the TB and back to the reservoir so I can circulate cold water through the TB.
 
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Cold water through the TB may not be a very good idea. I think I recall BlkZoomZoom posting about an "incident" he had with that.
 
Dug up this thread: http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74908&page=1&highlight=water and it appears he didn't have any problems. There was just speculation as to what can go wrong. I wouldn't suggest using ice water all the time, either, as it's more likely to cause stress cracks over time... as long as the resevoir isn't that close to the engine it's colder than the TB and there's going to be some sort of gain. After a good long spray I definetly notice less heat soak related hesitation. Maybe one day I'll get to do a few dyno runs...
 
mspeed101 said:
Im interested in this as well. So this kit will fit better and keep the intake charge cooler then the outlaw engineering kit? Also will you be including a coolant bypass mod as well?
We have not done the TB side of it yet. Both kits will fit FAR better than the outlaw kit, and will match or be better as far as keeping the IM cooler. Anybody that buys the intake manifold will get a discount on the TB when it comes out later. So you don't need to worry about "waiting" to get them together. We will be looking into the coolant bypass for you guys of course, and the kit will include it assuming the modification is simple and reasonable (which I believe it is! :) ) Not to mention we are cheaper!!! :) and all about mazda.
 
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I used vacuum end caps from where I work with worm type clamps, I have a very tiny leak on the housing closest one to the 02 connectors....There is a very tiny leak about 3 drops in about 1 month or so.
 
MSP Chris said:
I used vacuum end caps from where I work with worm type clamps, I have a very tiny leak on the housing closest one to the 02 connectors....There is a very tiny leak about 3 drops in about 1 month or so.
I take it that you capped the open nipples for the coolant lines with vacuum end caps once you removed the coolant lines to the TB. And that the lower one has a small leak? Just trying to see if I follow what you are saying.

I have to look at it again, but we will likely provide caps to cap the TB ports so you don't get corrosion and dirt inside of the TB water lines, and then whatever is necessary to get the other lines connected differently.

Installed the first one in a car last night. Part was perfect, and temps did drop (hard to measure perfectly though but about a 12-15 degree drop at least). Also saw that the TB has a SIGNIFICANT impact on manifold temps. You can see the temps rise a good 10 degrees or better when the thermostat opens and coolant moves through (aka when the radiator fan kicks on).

It is very hard to compare against what the other guys claim as you don't know their exact test setup and measuring points. I measured direcly on the head itself right in front of the mating of the IM and head. Then just a couple inches back on the IM for my other point. We also found that highway cruising is not actually the hottest time for the IM and head... it is actually under heavy load at low speeds, like hard acceleration and climbing hills. We did see a marked improvement in temps though, so the product does what it is supposed to! :)
 
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