US Diesel's big splash introduction
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Just because it's faster than the cx5d and only underperforms its EPA rating by 2 to 3mph on the freeway doesnt mean I'm excited about it.
I also decided I'm keeping my cx5. I would ratherpay off the land I'm buying before I get something to replace it, if it will endure.
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So is ours, I was quoting the 2019 model with adblue.
Interesting. Ours will still be 1751kg in 2019 - even if there is an update.
Don't think they will be tinkering with the engine as it was just done.
Probably because you will have E5 again?
The new emissions testing will increase the use of ad-blue with a resulting increase in tank size. The Tiguan I've ordered has used Ad-blue from 2016 perhaps earlier with a 13L tank, due to an increase in emission limit to E6 d temp this now means the ad-blue tank is increased to 18L from September.
The Uk cx-5 will lose the separate exhaust pipes to make space for the ad-blue tank....
Correct.
Unless Mazda decide to provide ad-blue version everywhere, because our testing is less strict, we are more than likely to continue with the current updated engine.
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It doesn*t suite modern production lines to run different versions of the same model. Oz may well get a running change to the same spec as us.
As for the manual box, it*s the slickest of any SUV I*ve driven with a clutch that feels as light as a small city car but I*ve grown to love this auto. It really is a gem.
As for the manual box, it*s the slickest of any SUV I*ve driven with a clutch that feels as light as a small city car but I*ve grown to love this auto. It really is a gem.
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As someone who wanted the diesel and actually put money down almost a year ago (maybe more!) to get the diesel, this thing sucks. The point of the diesel was to get much better gas mileage - especially on the highway to make it cost effective. Knowing that it most likely gets the same MPG is a huge turn off. I was hoping to average about 35 MPG with the diesel (compared to my 26 MPG with my current car).
I tend to agree with Nelson, this thing could be dead on arrival.
I tend to agree with Nelson, this thing could be dead on arrival.
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On...? Lol, that's giving it too much credit. If those numbers are legit, it's dead in the womb.
Nearly the same mpg, more expensive fuel in many areas, same or worse acceleration roughly, requires turbos which add to chance of mechanical failure, requires def, I mean, the only advantage it has is torque, which means nothing unless you're towing or just want for some arbitrary reason for it to be in a higher gear going through the hills, which the leghumping sport mode has generated seems to point to the opposite of, regarding some random rpm preference for low revs.
I guess people might buy a cx5 for towing...but is that enough to justify it? I'm thinking likely not.
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The US diesel's big splash introduction on CX-5 turned out to be its highway mpg. Diesel vehicles can always deliver impressive hybrid-like highway mpg and that's one of the major selling points on diesels. Somehow Mazda engineers screwed up something during the conversion to meet the US diesel emission standards. In the same compact CUV class Chevy Equinox 1.6L diesel with 137 hp / 240 ft-lbs did it with much better highway mpg (10~11mpg better) than city.
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Yea guys, I said this years ago here, pull the plug on this US diesel as it is a dud. It*s a waste of time and money, and has huge chance of tarnishing the brand more than it already is now...
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I honestly have no clue how Mazda managed to s*** the bed this graphically. Even I am shocked at their ineptness.
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Agreed. It goes way past the diesel for me...Their decision making has me just about smh constantly...
The US diesel's big splash introduction on CX-5 turned out to be its highway mpg. Diesel vehicles can always deliver impressive hybrid-like highway mpg and that's one of the major selling points on diesels. Somehow Mazda engineers screwed up something during the conversion to meet the US diesel emission standards. In the same compact CUV class Chevy Equinox 1.6L diesel with 137 hp / 240 ft-lbs did it with much better highway mpg (10~11mpg better) than city.
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OK granted- the epa numbers on the diesel CX-5 look comparatively bad, but I probably wouldn't buy and run the Chevy with your dollars, something really seems screwy with those hwy numbers, we don't know what the power numbers are but no question it will trounce 137/240 and 9.4 to 60. I think we'll be up around 190/325 and mid 7s- if that assumption holds and its laying down low 30s on mostly highway real driving vs my 26-27 WHY IS THAT NOT GOOD, HOW IS THAT TARNISHING THE BRAND?? The diesel options that are out there are strictly efficiency minded and that's fine(not what I want) but its probably what the majority wants but I want the best of both- the way Mercedes did it, the way the 335d was fkn awesome (ok I'm stretching there) but the point is Mazda went with the higher output diesel because even in a thin diesel market it will stand out as one that is pretty dang good to drive (better than the NA 2.5) while getting better if not headline grabbing FE while not being terribly expensive..I think
Let's all ctfd, get some real test result numbers, give the thing a chance and see what happens k? Maybe I'll eat crow, maybe I'll eat a nice LaFrieda NY strip steak on unob's dime with a CX-5 diesel on order- but right here right now we just don't know enough to treat it like a 2 dollar hooker...yet but hey stay tuned
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I returning around 40mpg uk at the moment, I tow so want the torque the diesel delivers, no sport mode with the UK diesel though. Usually its around 36mpg locally. Our average read out reads around 2.5 to 2.6 high, some say 3mpg.
I'm afraid the 0-60 figures will be in the 9's, Mazda claim 9.5 sec to 60mph for the 2017 model which weights 1754kg for my model.
OK granted- the epa numbers on the diesel CX-5 look comparatively bad, but I probably wouldn't buy and run the Chevy with your dollars, something really seems screwy with those hwy numbers, we don't know what the power numbers are but no question it will trounce 137/240 and 9.4 to 60. I think we'll be up around 190/325 and mid 7s- if that assumption holds and its laying down low 30s on mostly highway real driving vs my 26-27 WHY IS THAT NOT GOOD, HOW IS THAT TARNISHING THE BRAND?? The diesel options that are out there are strictly efficiency minded and that's fine(not what I want) but its probably what the majority wants but I want the best of both- the way Mercedes did it, the way the 335d was fkn awesome (ok I'm stretching there) but the point is Mazda went with the higher output diesel because even in a thin diesel market it will stand out as one that is pretty dang good to drive (better than the NA 2.5) while getting better if not headline grabbing FE while not being terribly expensive..I think
^I'm pretty sure (and hopeful) you'll be wrong..the 9.4 was the 137hp equinox weighing in at 3769..damn your cx-5 is heavy- still can't imagine our diesel CX-5 won't be 1 to nearly 2 full ticks prompter to 60..guess we'll see..
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My 2013 cx-5 was 1666kg with the same power up to the uprated engine, and the quickest, my 2015 car is 1703kg with the same power but auto which is also slower than a manual.
Mazda are trying to go up market so the weight has increased year on year, I think you will be lucky to see a diesel with more than 184ps and 445nm which is what we get pulling 1820kg for our heaviest model the sport AWD auto.
Work the power to weight ratio out for yourself.
1666kg with 175ps
1703kg with 175ps
1764kg with 175ps
1820kg with 184ps or less to meet your stricter emissions?
Mazda are trying to go up market so the weight has increased year on year, I think you will be lucky to see a diesel with more than 184ps and 445nm which is what we get pulling 1820kg for our heaviest model the sport AWD auto.
Work the power to weight ratio out for yourself.
1666kg with 175ps
1703kg with 175ps
1764kg with 175ps
1820kg with 184ps or less to meet your stricter emissions?
Looks like Mazda North America is the problem (uhm) - don't know how to tune it right....
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