You may be right, I'll take your word for it. That's still 4 out 5 variants its available in.
I agree with your comments regarding better rolling acceleration for diesel.
Screenshot re engine availability
You may be right, I'll take your word for it. That's still 4 out 5 variants its available in.
Most tests I've seen had the Diesel slower to 60mph by about .5 sec. (from a standstill) The Petrol has the edge on initial throttle response from a standstill but on the move, ie. rolling acceleration, and when fully laden, the Diesel is superior.
Remember you may not need to get a fully loaded GT to get the Diesel. In Australia, the Diesel is available from the base model all the way through to the top spec model.
You can go down to about a gallon and be safe. Modern tank and pump designs pretty much ensure your fuel pump won't be destroyed unless you continuously run your tank dry.
YMMV
Get your 2.5 ready, i will take you on in my Akera diesel. Will watch your "shocked face look" in my rearview mirror.
Hmmm. Interesting, but I'm not trading for one. Makes no sense financially, and I am not convinced it isn't going to be a lemon.
Makes more sense for frequent long distances
Not if you already own a CX5. Take a $5000+ hit to save $1000 over the life of the vehicle? no thanks.
It all depends on the price premium, as to whether it's going to be cost-justifiable.
There are those who have this notion that owning/driving a diesel passenger car is cool.
Maybe so, but be aware there's much more than mpg involved. The true cost of ownership of a diesel vehicle involves a whole lot more than fuel consumption.
Cost of parts and consumables is much greater. Check out the cost of a fuel pump, or an oil change. Availability of parts will be a total crap shoot for at least a year. And what about service? Is there a single Mazda tech, manager, tech writer, parts dept. that knows squat about diesel? Nope. So that has to ramp up, eh?
Ever seen a diesel pump? Check out the ever-present oil spot. The fuel is oily, does not evaporate, and stinks. Gets on your shoes, then in your car, you WILL carry gloves because the smell is ALWAYS on the pump handle. I've owned a diesel passenger car. Never, ever again. Be careful what you wish for. Carry on.
Not if you already own a CX5. Take a $5000+ hit to save $1000 over the life of the vehicle? no thanks.
Not if you already own a CX5. Take a $5000+ hit to save $1000 over the life of the vehicle? no thanks.
If you're suggesting not to use Shell diesel fuel, then we really have problem getting a diesel CX-5 as Shell is the only name-brand gas station in our area selling diesel fuel! (eek2)
We have totally different aspects towards diesel passenger vehicles in the US. Out of things you listed only "Fuel economy" and "Torque for carrying loads or towing" could affect potential CX-5 buyers considering paying $2,800 premium for a diesel. Most people in the US have never used a diesel car as diesel fuel traditionally more expensive and harder to find. Even public buses don't use diesel anymore but with natural gas or electrical due to emission issues. Based on fuel economy comparison on SA-G 2.5L between Japanese JC08 and US EPA ratings, 35.2 ~ 38.5 highway EPA MPG on diesel CX-5 is not significant enough to attract most buyers to switch from gasoline to a diesel engine for the reason of better fuel economy alone. In addition, most CX-5 owners here will never tow anything. With only 2,200-pound towing capacity on CX-5 they would prefer to use a bigger SUV with a V6 or V8 engine for towing!For most people, its not as simple as one factor such as you suggest that will make the decision in favour of diesel.
Its a combination of things usually, and will depend on individual requirements and preferences. Things like:
Fuel economy
Range on a tank
Driveability
Torque for carrying loads or towing
Performance
Prestige value
Bragging rights
And so on.
People will put different weight on each of these as they determine for themselves. There may even be one-dimensional types that only see one of these factors as relevant to them - so be it.... Simple souls, God bless 'em.....
5 years of diesel ownership for 2 CX-5's is not that long. Some VW TDI owners here had million-mile experience but now they're looking for alternatives. Once the SA-D reaches to 100,000 miles, we need to worry about potentially expensive DPF replacement、turbo charger、and even the newly added DEF urea injection system which you guys have never experienced on a diesel CX-5. Although the cost of DEF has been coming down recently but still we have to add urea from time to time which is an additional cost.By the way, some on here talk about the alleged significantly greater maintenance cost of the diesel, but I am yet to experience it despite having 2 CX5 diesels since 2012.
Parts and consumables much more expensive? Bunkum. Not supported by facts or evidence. The engines themselves are a multi-valve DOHC fuel injected negine, not all that diffrent to the gas versions. Mechanics will quickly learn. No rocket science involved.
The only extra cost is the full syn diesel oil and in this car, the quantlty is much the same as the 2.5 petrol engine. Supply your own oil (that meets specs) to the dealer and it almost negates that extra cost anyway.
If you're suggesting not to use Shell diesel fuel, then we really have problem getting a diesel CX-5 as Shell is the only name-brand gas station in our area selling diesel fuel! (eek2)One final edit. Re filling with diesel. If you get diesel that is low on anti-foaming additive, then yes, it can foam back ta you when the tank is nearly full. I found that Shell fuel here is crap like that, it is the only one that does it, and you quickly learn to avoid it.
Filling my car myself over the past three+ years, I've never spilt any file on myself, my clothing, or gotten any on my hands, nor do I wear gloves. I owned a mid 80's diesel VW, and hated it - this car is something completely different.
Folks should try it out themselves. If you like it, get it; if not, no need.
yrwei52 said:Even public buses don't use diesel anymore but with natural gas or electrical due to emission issues.
If you're suggesting not to use Shell diesel fuel, then we really have problem getting a diesel CX-5 as Shell is the only name-brand gas station in our area selling diesel fuel! (eek2)
I agree with your comments regarding better rolling acceleration for diesel.
Screenshot re engine availability
This is not completely true. There are a huge amount of diesel-electric hybrid buses on the road in the US. I don't think they are the most popular type, but they aren't uncommon.
I use Shell diesel more than any other brand. Wait a few seconds and the foam dissipates, then you can fill it up more. Or don't care about getting that last tiny bit in the tank. It's not a big deal. It's also not the only one that foams, as far as I can tell they all do to some degree.