I know someone at Mazda corporate that had a CX-9 for the weekend prior to a media event. Apparently the car will be on sale Memorial Day weekend.
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I know someone at Mazda corporate that had a CX-9 for the weekend prior to a media event. Apparently the car will be on sale Memorial Day weekend.
How is the road noise (compared to other vehicles in this class and/or previous CX-9). does the Turbo-V4 sound burdened under acceleration or load?
Road noise: I have no frame of reference vs other vehicles in the class because I haven't driven any of them. In my opinion, the car is quiet yet still engaging to drive.
Acceleration: Not burdened at all. In fact, versus the previous CX-9, the turbo4 has quicker response because it's not searching for gears and a majority of the torque is available at low RPM.
My friend averaged 22mpg on the first tank of gas in a car that was literally right off the boat with AWD. I'm assuming as the engine breaks-in, the mpg will move up slightly.
if you have ever heard a small CVT (let's say prius sized) go up an incline grade of >10-15%, you will know what a burdened engine sound is...it'll still get you up there, but it is an annoying droning sound. i know we're not talking about a CVT here but just using it as an extreme example to make my point.
Thanks Amati - it would be a nice surprise to see these in the wild soon after Memorial Day weekend - hope that's true for us EastCoasters too.
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Well...u said it...it's not the engine that is at fault but wrong gearing. With proper gearing any engine will pull any weight over any incline. I am referring to people worrying about towing abilities of turbo 4....well 1st. 99% of cx9s will never tow anything of any significant weight. If u want proper towing machine...get diesel. For anything else turbo 4 will be great especially at elevation. Engine doesn't care about the weight...if it's light it will accelerate like a MFer...if it's heavy...it won't. It's up to tranny and proper gearing to take care of the rest. Small turbo engines are the future...before they are phased out by electric engines so enough with this v6 whining. Let's trust that people who designed the engine were aware of the projected weight of the car and tuned it properly for the weight and type of gearing.
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I do agree with you that the CX-9 should be coming out with features that at least match what others offer. That's why I am likely going to pass on the 1st model year. Early adopters always pay for the exclusivity in one way or another. Take the 2016 Pilot, it didn't have Apple CarPlay/Android Auto when it came out. Yet, the Civic and Accord did. So, 2016 Pilot owners are up in arms about Honda not making it available, yet they bought one. I also don't think the Pilot has the parking sensors or surround camera, but I could be wrong with that. However, if I had to buy a 2016 CX-9 as soon as it comes out, I'm saying that the lack of Apple CarPlay/Android Auto will be the only feature that would give me pause. The other features are just "nice to have" for me. Again, this is based on my preferences and not anyone else's.
Pricing on the CX-9 is very aggressive in comparison to the competition, even with those missing features. Heck, the Hyundai Santa Fe and Kia Sorento top trims are priced much higher than the CX-9 Signature. That's not a knock on the Hyundai and Kia, but if the CX-9 is cheaper than those vehicles, I think it will still sell well. I'm also inclined to think that once Mazda starts making those features available, pricing will also increase to be inline with the competition.
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I don't think that's the case, I called Mazda's Jacksonville, FL shipping port and they said that the first CX-9s won't arrive here until June 15, then by time shipping to the dealers happens, it won't be until July 1st that they'd go on sale.
In reference to the point on the engineers properly calibrating the vehicle.... not sure if this has been posted in the past, but here is a video of a Mazda engineer discussing the CX-9 and the thought behind the engineering:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrY4g9EAveg
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My CX has one but it doesn't rob the headroom.
I also owned a double cab Tundra with a large power sunroof.
Combined with a power rear window that totally disappeared when lowered, it was very cool. Amazing driving on the OBX beaches.
However some owners complain about them being too noisy to open at highway speeds (I concur) and they (sun/moon roofs) reduce headroom when closed, which is generally over 90 % of the time and if you dont use the sunshade, they add a lot of heat in the cabin on sunny days, making the air conditioner work harder. But a plus is that it adds some heat in sunny winter weather.
I also owned a double cab Tundra with a large power sunroof.
Combined with a power rear window that totally disappeared when lowered, it was very cool. Amazing driving on the OBX beaches.
However some owners complain about them being too noisy to open at highway speeds (I concur) and they (sun/moon roofs) reduce headroom when closed, which is generally over 90 % of the time and if you dont use the sunshade, they add a lot of heat in the cabin on sunny days, making the air conditioner work harder. But a plus is that it adds some heat in sunny winter weather.
Yeh, we've seen it. That's my point. These people know what they r doing and turbocharging has been around for decades. Knock preventative and active cooling of comb. Chamber is also very innovative and unique. With any new design come issues with underingeneered parts ...parts that didn't meet manufacturers expectations but made it to the assembly line anyways...failing gasket here and there. That's is given, 1st year will have these issues but I am very excited about this new engine and new innovative designs should be praised and not cried about. At the end of the day....specs don't lie...300+ lbs.tq. Engine is much stronger than outgoing v6 and at much lower rpm...so why we even have this conversation lol
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From what I was told by a corporate employee, the plan is to have a press event the week of 5/16. You'll begin to see reviews later that week and the following week. Then the car goes on sale the weekend of 5/28.
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I understand back in February when the dealers said they couldn't say a sale date because nobody would buy the remaining 2015 cx9s...and that logic might have made sense in March and April. But now it's 23 days until the sale date and we've had not one new update from mazda on anything about this car since they announced pricing and options at the beginning of march? I just don't buy it. Maybe you're right about the release date, but in a time where movies are being teased a year before being released and the same with highly anticipated cars, I just don't get why mazda would keep the car release date in the dark so long. Their sales are lagging and they need all of the press time they can get to generate interest (which = sales)
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My question is, did you get to sit in the third row? Is it going to fit adults? Obviously I don't mean for long trips, but we had an Infiniti jx35 (qx60 now) and I could actually sit in the 3rd row with just enough headspace for no more than an hour drive. And I'm 6'3"!
I personally didn't sit in the 3rd row, however someone else that was looking at the car did -- he's about 5'10. He said it would be okay for a short trip but definitely not minivan space, the ingress/egress was difficult. The new CX-9 is narrower than the previous gen, so there is also some compromise in the cargo space.
The QX60 is bigger, however based on all available reviews (Car and Driver, Consumer Reports, etc) it is a terrible driving experience. Obviously there is no perfect car, so the trade-off will be size/features/luxury brand for driving experience/value/looks (if you believe the CX-9 looks better).
As someone said later in the discussion, there's no perfect vehicle. Still, I find it laughable that Honda doesn't even have true blind spot monitoring except on its top Pilot Elite trim. Also, do you want standard-setting LED headlights across the board? Mazda delivers; Pilot-nope!
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Yes, that article touches on just the mazda 3 and mx-5. But here is the article I recently read:
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...ts-sales-damage-with-redesigned-cx-9-flagship
"Mazda's U.S. sales slumped 17 percent through March from a year earlier to 64,643 vehicles, in an overall market that was up 3.3 percent. Mazda's market share dropped to 1.6 percent from 2.0 percent the year before.
Sales were undermined by the sell-down of the outgoing CX-9. But the company's sedan sales also tumbled amid tougher competition.
The shrinking sales are pressuring Mazda to increase incentives, which runs counter to the brand's strategy to lift its image and pricing power.
Indeed, Mazda will boost incentives and marketing for the Mazda3 and Mazda6 sedans to stoke sales, Robert Davis, senior vice president of U.S. operations at Mazda North American Operations, told..."
