Pinging noise on cx5 diesel

There are different octane diesel available?


You dont measure octane in diesel (at least for the general consumer), but you can maybe buy better quality diesel. Here it's called Eco speed diesel, but I highly doubt that would fix the problem. There is a thread on the strange brake noise on the german forum, I need to read into it a bit though. Do you still have that issue?
 
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Hi, I have just bought a CX 5 2.2 DIESEL automatic. It has the same noise you are describing and is clearly a fault Mazda would rather not admit. As a person that understands mechanics and therefore "NORMAL engine sounds" the car is for me a Brain Hammer. When I drove the test car prior to signing the purchase contract the engine sounded sweet and refined. The car I have taken delivery of is unacceptably noisy once at it's normal working tempreature. I feel cheated that the test drive wasn't long enough for the car to reach it's working tempreature and the hell noise to start, maybe that's why the test drive is so short? In all other respects the car is very good but the engine noise is unbelievable and completely unacceptable - I want my money back.
 
I have never heard such a noise, not on mine or the FOUR cx5 models I test drove before buying, but ALL where manual versions.

Or the brake noise, but most of my driving is with music playing.
Wind noise on the motorway is my only gripe plus the drop in economy at motorway speeds.

I have on about three occasions felt a engine jerk/misfire which I have never been able to identify just before 2K revs, I believe it could have been the change over from one turbo to the other, but its not happened for a while.

To be honest its the best engine I have ever had in any car, but I have only had 4 pot engines.

The CX-5 does appear to have a broad band of problems, I had virtually no problems with the four Nissans I've had, although that my now have changed since I last bought one.
 
I have never heard such a noise, not on mine or the FOUR cx5 models I test drove before buying, but ALL where manual versions.

Or the brake noise, but most of my driving is with music playing.
Wind noise on the motorway is my only gripe plus the drop in economy at motorway speeds.

I have on about three occasions felt a engine jerk/misfire which I have never been able to identify just before 2K revs, I believe it could have been the change over from one turbo to the other, but its not happened for a while.

To be honest its the best engine I have ever had in any car, but I have only had 4 pot engines.

The CX-5 does appear to have a broad band of problems, I had virtually no problems with the four Nissans I've had, although that my now have changed since I last bought one.

Hi xtrailman,good to hear that you are happy with your CX and your comment about the engine being the best, is echoed by a personal friend who has the same car as mine. Mazda has a reputation for quality, which is why I bought one. Unhappily the example that I have fits the criterea of this post.
 
Hi, I have just bought a CX 5 2.2 DIESEL automatic. It has the same noise you are describing and is clearly a fault Mazda would rather not admit. As a person that understands mechanics and therefore "NORMAL engine sounds" the car is for me a Brain Hammer. When I drove the test car prior to signing the purchase contract the engine sounded sweet and refined. The car I have taken delivery of is unacceptably noisy once at it's normal working tempreature. I feel cheated that the test drive wasn't long enough for the car to reach it's working tempreature and the hell noise to start, maybe that's why the test drive is so short? In all other respects the car is very good but the engine noise is unbelievable and completely unacceptable - I want my money back.

Hi, just wondering. Did you get any remedies against the noise problem. I may be experiencing something similar on a new CX5 175hp Diesel. It is the rev related underlying "fast ticking" noise filling your head, unless drowned by music from the radio or the road noise at speeds over 60-70 km/hr.
 
This noise is now very common on NEW CX5 diesels, I have it too, but only once the engine is warmed up as others mentioned. Many test droves won't show it up. Mazda say it is the injector noise and it is normal. Someone test drove 4 diesels and they all made the noise after a long drive. It may be normal and nothing at all to worry about, but yeh, it is very loud and wasn't present on my older model.
 
This noise is now very common on NEW CX5 diesels, I have it too, but only once the engine is warmed up as others mentioned. Many test droves won't show it up. Mazda say it is the injector noise and it is normal. Someone test drove 4 diesels and they all made the noise after a long drive. It may be normal and nothing at all to worry about, but yeh, it is very loud and wasn't present on my older model.

Hi Dr_Watson, thanks for the comment. This confirms that I am not oversensitive over this or imagining things. Have you heard or considered any ideas on trying to muffle this noise in order to make it less irritating? Apply extra sound insulation perhaps?
 
Hi Dr_Watson, thanks for the comment. This confirms that I am not oversensitive over this or imagining things. Have you heard or considered any ideas on trying to muffle this noise in order to make it less irritating? Apply extra sound insulation perhaps?

I have been driving petrol cars for over 30 years and this is my first Diesel car. I have to say that the diesel engine is way more noisy than petrol engine. Funny thing is the face lift model is supposed to have better insulation as well. I guess there is a bit of getting used to. I picked the diesel for its fuel efficiency over petrol.

The issue with the diesel is that I can no longer tell what is "normal" engine noise vs what is not normal. Ah well. Everything has a learning curve.
 
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I have been driving petrol cars for over 30 years and this is my Diesel cars. I will have to say that the diesel engine is way more noisy than petrol engine. Funny thing is the face lift model is supposed to have better insulation as well. I guess there is a bit of getting used to. I picked the diesel for its fuel efficiency over petrol.

The issue with the diesel is that I can no longer tell what is "normal" engine noise vs what is not normal. Ah well. Everything has a learning curve.
I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD befor this one and I could hear the engine alright, but no issues with noises. I am OK with the actual engine noise of the Mazda but it is this ticking/pinging underneath that is annoying. Hope I will get used to it. I also noticed the claim about a better sound insulation with the face lift. I do not have the direct comaprison. But to rate this in some way, I would say that road noise is very acceptable, engine noise OK, but the noise from injectors apparently is not acceptable. It may be "normal" in the sense that it does not indicate a malfunction, but it should have been better insulated.
 
I have owned many cars, a few diesels, Golf R32, Impreza Turbo and my old CX5 2.2 for 2.5 years. This latest model has a very refined and quiet diesel. The extra soundproofing is obvious when I compare it to my old car. I test drove a 2.0 and a 2.5 version, at low revs they are a little quieter, but once you want to accelerate at similar levels to the diesel, they are just as loud as the require more RPM to get the same performance. Overall, all models are very quiet.

The pinging noise on the new model starts once my engine is fully warmed which can be 5 to 10 mins after the blue light goes off. Before this, the engine is very quiet and refined. The problem with this noise is, it is quite a high pitch and really penetrates from the engine into the cabin. Even with music on a mid to low volume you can still hear it. At low speeds, the predominant noise is this pinging since the engine itself is so quiet. I think I will get used to it, I don't really have a choice, this car is staying with me for 5 years. I check the German and Oz forums every few days, so far there hasn't been any mention of it.
 
Morning from sunny South Africa!

my wife's 2015 2.2D AWD akera auto also has the same noise!
drives me mental.
i find it hard to believe the developers over all the test Kms didn't hear that noise and question it. its not normal.
hell it gives me a headache after a while!

when i pointed the noise out to Mazda RSA, they confirmed it was odd.
they did an inspection and at the end replaced the entire injector assembly.
this sadly made the noise worse...
i took it further up and got the response that this is normal and not harming the vehicle. (but is harming my ears!)

i'm secretly praying that mazda does a recall on the vehicles to address this issue.
because at this moment in time i am regretting not saving up a bit more and buying the Audi Q5.
 
I have owned many cars, a few diesels, Golf R32, Impreza Turbo and my old CX5 2.2 for 2.5 years. This latest model has a very refined and quiet diesel. The extra soundproofing is obvious when I compare it to my old car. I test drove a 2.0 and a 2.5 version, at low revs they are a little quieter, but once you want to accelerate at similar levels to the diesel, they are just as loud as the require more RPM to get the same performance. Overall, all models are very quiet.

The pinging noise on the new model starts once my engine is fully warmed which can be 5 to 10 mins after the blue light goes off. Before this, the engine is very quiet and refined. The problem with this noise is, it is quite a high pitch and really penetrates from the engine into the cabin. Even with music on a mid to low volume you can still hear it. At low speeds, the predominant noise is this pinging since the engine itself is so quiet. I think I will get used to it, I don't really have a choice, this car is staying with me for 5 years. I check the German and Oz forums every few days, so far there hasn't been any mention of it.
Your description of this noise matches my experience exactly. Judging from the comments from you and others in this thread, this is getting very close to demanding a serious reaction from Mazda in my opinion.
 
Your description of this noise matches my experience exactly. Judging from the comments from you and others in this thread, this is getting very close to demanding a serious reaction from Mazda in my opinion.

This really reminds me of a simmilar episode with the Honda Accord Euro (Acura TSX in the US) a few years ago. There are noises resemble engine pinging but Honda was admamant that it was "post combustion" noise and not engine pinging.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?99566-NEW-2009-Euro-Luxury-Auto-Pinging

It was widely reported worldwide and Honda was forced to change the ECU timing (re-progaramming) and chaging the knock sensor to reduce/eliminate the engine noise at the end. Unless there are a lot of customer compaints, I suspect Mazda will simply sweep this under the carpet and say that this is normal engine noise.
 
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Good find! Not familiar with this, will ask my dealer and show them this thread if required.
 
I specifically made an effort this morning to listen to the diesel "pinging" noise but could not hear any. I did wait till the engine warmed up. I know I do have problem hearing certain frequency. However, my wife who is a trained pianist could not hear the high pitch noise as well. She has much better hearing than me as she was the one who heard the Accord Euro "pinging" and told me previously.

Not sure how wide spread this diesel engine noise is.
 
It probably isn't on every car! Considering a annual injector calibration which seems to be part of the standard service can fix it, it may be some dealers are doing this on cars before they they are sold?

Is your model the facelift model?

It's loud enough for everyone to hear, it's not that high pitched. If you have it, you will hear it! Although, it does have that phenomina where if you turn your head to the right or left when driving, you can't hear it anymore. Not an ideal solution though!
 
It probably isn't on every car! Considering a annual injector calibration which seems to be part of the standard service can fix it, it may be some dealers are doing this on cars before they they are sold?

Is your model the facelift model?

It's loud enough for everyone to hear, it's not that high pitched. If you have it, you will hear it! Although, it does have that phenomina where if you turn your head to the right or left when driving, you can't hear it anymore. Not an ideal solution though!

Hi Dr_Watson. My CX-5 is the face-lift Diesel(128KW /420Nm) version. Yes. Perhaps the high pitch noise does not happen on every car. I certainly hope so after being dragged through the Accord Euro "pinging" noise drama a few years ago which Honda did find a fix at the end.
 
Hi Dr_Watson. My CX-5 is the face-lift Diesel(128KW /420Nm) version. Yes. Perhaps the high pitch noise does not happen on every car. I certainly hope so after being dragged through the Accord Euro "pinging" noise drama a few years ago which Honda did find a fix at the end.
It is interesting to know that not all the cars have this pinging noise. From that I am tempted to conclude that a repair or improvement is possible. I have not yet discussed this issue with my local dealer but will of course do that in the very near future. If anyone here has some further points about the "injector calibration" discussed in this thread, then please share the information.
 
No info from me, I won't get to the dealer for a few weeks/months while. Let us know what he says about the calibration once you have been.
 
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