How many will buy the next RX when it comes out with the 16X!

Probably not. The RX-8 we bought was for my wife. She loves its styling, etc. However, given the choice between her RX-8 and a Mustang, she'd chose the Mustang. She was the one who wanted the RX-8, though. I was too practical and didn't like the past problems they'd had with the RX cars, throughout the years. My favorite is still the third gen RX-7. Most likely, our RX-8 will be gone to someone else before the warranty runs out on it. That'll be a few years, yet. I don't see us buying another rotary powered car, no matter how neat it is. I could see a new Miata in the future, though.
 
Love my RX-8! Hopefully they do bring out another RX. We shall see. There's been to much speculation going around to really say on the design and if the 16X will be put into production.
 
This was posted on my forum: www.RotaryCarClub.com by one of the admin.

TOKYO -- The next-generation rotary engine from Mazda Motor Corp. isn't ready. The engine, unveiled at the 2007 Tokyo show under the code name 16X, was planned as the powerplant for the next-generation RX-8 sports car to be launched in 2012 or so.
Seita Kanai, head of Mazda r&d, said the engine does not meet the performance and fuel economy guidelines the automaker requires for a production model. Work continues to cut the rotary's fuel consumption.
The code name refers to the increase in the current engine's displacement, from 1.3 liters to 1.6 liters.
Kanai declined to say whether it's back to the drawing board for the 16X. "The 16X is more a profile of a rotary still in our concept stage," he said. "It needs more evolution."
(Source: Automotive News)
 
I love my rotary RX-8. But I don't see myself buying another rotary again. I'm lucky enough to not have had any problems with my RX-8 but it just pisses way to much gas for what it puts out.
 
sounds somewhat promising, but i still don't like the idea of the MSP design. that will be what they have to do for the modern emissions standards though. the rotary lives on in name...
 
If they do come out with a new RX in the next couple yrs then yes I shold be ready for a new car.
 
Looks great to me. I hope they are going to follow through, but I think that article is a bit optimistic about power and price. I don't think Mazda will put out an RX line that competes directly with the MS3 ($25,000 and 250 HP). I wish they would, but i doubt it. Other than that I liked everything that article had to say.
 
Here is some info on the new RX...what do you think? Sounds good to me..

http://blogs.insideline.com/straigh...2012-mazda-rx-7-could-spell-end-for-rx-8.html

I'm going to break down that article and give my 2 cents..

Despite the tough economy, the Mazda RX-7 revival is still going to happen. Sources close to Mazda tell us that we could see a new RX-7 as early as 2011. However, the arrival of the 2012 Mazda RX-7 of the RX-7 will almost certainly signal the end for the expensive, slow-selling Mazda RX-8.

This could be true. The resale value on the RX8s are already super bad. The new 7s not going to help.

mazda_16X_rotaryengine.jpg As we reported early this year, the next RX-7 will use Mazda's new-generation Renesis 16X rotary engine which debuted at the 2007 Tokyo Auto Show in the Taiki concept. This 1,600cc, two-rotor Wankel engine has a 800cc x 2 configuration versus the 654cc x 2 configuration in the current RX-8.

The upshot of the extra displacement should be better performance, as the 16X is said to be capable of up to 350 horsepower and 215 pound-feet of torque versus the RX8's paltry 232 hp and 159 lb-ft.

If 16X puts down 300RWHP on the new RX7, I'll be interested in purchasing. But to be consider good in my book, it needs to make 400+ HP. Old 3rd gen RX7s making mid 300 to 400 RWHP is a blast to drive and competitive to newer sports cars on the market.

Early reports suggested that Mazda would take advantage of this power potential and build a 300-hp RX-8 with styling cues from the Furai concept (shown at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show)and a mid-$30Ks price tag.

However, sources close to Mazda now suggest that the company will take a simpler approach and create a car whose character evokes the original RX-7 (sold in the U.S. from 1979-1985). Horsepower is expected to be in the 200-250 range and the pricetag will be about $25,000.

If Mazda does this, I wouldn't buy one. RX-7s are suppose to be competitive to other sports cars on the market. Using long historical name and making a car that produce 200-250 flywheel HP, that's ridiculous! RX-7s are suppose to be a sports car and not family grocery getter. In order for RX-7 to be competitive to newer Japanese/US/Euro Sports car it needs to be light and it needs to make at least 300HP. Otherwise, why even make one?? I'd definitely not going to buy one.

Also, if you track Japanese Yen,... US dollar is so weak now that 25K car means 30% less valued car from 2 years ago. Another reason why I call this a BS.

A simpler, more efficient RX-7 would likely be a better fit with current economic and legislative realities, though we hear Mazda is still trying to reduce the weight of the 16X engine while lowering fuel consumption (the age-old problem with rotaries). If the company can sort it all out, the 2012 RX-7 should provide interesting competition for the Hyundai Genesis Coupe and the production version of the Toyota FT-86. -- Mak Tokuyama, reporting from Japan

Does this writer know anything about 16X?? All aluminum rotor housings and plates?? How much lighter Mazda is wanting to lighten?? Its a Rotary!!! There aren't much to make it lighter unless you make Titanium rotors and Eshaft!! No way Mazda will do this and also keep it $25K.

Also, regarding MPG.. My stock 3rd gen got 25+ MPG on highway. My 04 RX8 with all new flashes got best, 23 MPG. "the age-old" problem this writer is talking about is false. But I do believe that direct injection will help with with MPG but at the same time, I think it will never get to mid 30 MPGs... because rotary engine in general, like to run rich.
 
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Like most Japanese cars, the last of the series is often the best but shortest lived. The Series-3 RX-8 should be no exception.

Recall the Series-3 RX-7 (84-85). Mazda gave a 13B-RESI option of the USA & a 12A-Turbo option for Japan.

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