Burnouts - Wheel hop

[Biggs]

well i had my first wheel hop today omw to work.. it was an uphill start... just 3 hops before I let off the throttle. Scared the crap outta me btw (hope I didnt mess anything up)...

Anyway it got me thinking... do you get wheel hop every time you "burnout" or can you do it without getting the hop.

And if you can do it without the hop, what is happening physically that creates a "smooth" burnout rather than the hop?

 

[GoFast]

so you did a burnout when you left work for what reason? I find that by not doing burnouts, I eliminate most of my wheelhop.

If you still feel the need to do burnouts, there are a couple things that can helps. One is by getting a tire with a bigger and softer sidewall. Another, and I don't really know how well they work, is the medieval traction bars. Google them and see if those will do what you need.

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

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so you did a burnout when you left work for what reason? I find that by not doing burnouts, I eliminate most of my wheelhop.

 

[Sport6]

In stock form its basically the nature of his beast. The tires are obviously trying to grip as best they can and the hopping is caused by that. The motor mounts allow of a lot of slop so when the thing grips it basically moves the whole motor around and causes the hop of the tires. If you do it a lot it can lead to motor mounts failing.

Putting down all the power can smooth out the burn out, also really smooth surfaces.

Basically you will have to get the 3 mounts replaced with aftermarket harder mounts and even add track bars to eliminate it. Not saying that one or two of these won't eliminate it for you because some times its just how the power is delivered to the car from the driver.

 

[Biggs]

so you did a burnout when you left work for what reason? I find that by not doing burnouts, I eliminate most of my wheelhop.

If you still feel the need to do burnouts, there are a couple things that can helps. One is by getting a tire with a bigger and softer sidewall. Another, and I don't really know how well they work, is the medieval traction bars. Google them and see if those will do what you need.

thanks for the sarcasm (unamused) and thanks for not even coming close to giving me any resemblance of an answer... no I didn't burnout when I went to work.. I was at a red light on a hill, I let out the clutch too fast or gave it too much gas (or possibly both, I cant remember) and i got a little wheel hop. it was obviously an accident.

and if you re-read my post you see that i didnt ask for "help" on doing burnouts.. I was asking what the difference is between the two... if there actually is any.

 

[dmention7]

It's generally a combination of characteristics of the tires, suspension, and engine mounts that cause wheelhop. What causes the hop is that spinning the tires sets up a resonance in the drivetrain where the tires are skipping, the suspension is bouncing and the engine is flopping all at the same frequency. The easiest to fix is a solid rear motor mount with a stiffer bushing--that'll probably get of most wheelhop from light wheel spin. Upgrading the rest of the motor/transmission mounts and stiffening the front suspension will pretty much kill the rest.

 

[Biggs]

ok.. I was already planning on getting a rear motor mount but now it really seems like a good idea.

 

[Saskatchewan17]

No need to get defensive... it is ridiculously easy to break the front tires loose in this car.

 

[Biggs]

while we're on the subject.. whats better for the bushing, rubber or urethane?