Thinking hard about replacing my MS3 with...

135 ftw. $500 chip and u done. bmw's are classy. f*** comaro, has interior of 90's buick. who need straight line performance, plus it's a gas guzzler. in 2 years it will rattle like ms3 in -100*F...
 
Personally, I'm just waiting for kotik to wander over to the Fast and Furious 4 threads and start posting in them. It would make my life complete.
 
The innanets is an endless well of amusement.

And then out of nowhere two weeks later...

Thanks for posting that so I didn't have to Kain. I guess reading a post (afterall I said no mods / or stock only three times...) isn't required.
 
Personally, I'm just waiting for kotik to wander over to the Fast and Furious 4 threads and start posting in them. It would make my life complete.

what's that have to do with anything?
sooo, if i like bmw that means that i like fast and a furious?? lol... i think two things mean quite opposite. One of the reasons i'm selling my ms3, is so that i'm not associated with some punk ricers.


to the op, sorry about that, kind of read the begining of the threat and didn't bother to read last page. Even without the chip, i think 135 would be a much better over all car. think about it, camaro is going to be first year on the market (let's all remember what happens with most cars that are produced for the first year), especially it being 400hp and american made. You will have quite a bit of issues, and and a lot of dealer visits. 135, in particular v6 TT that it has, has already been out for a while, and most of kinks have been worked out (oil cooler). i'm pretty sure that as soon as you get that camaro, you will notice some problems that are not resolved by the dealer (like with ms3 the 3rd gear ingagement. most of us have put stiffer engine mount). So if you thinking that you'll buy a comaro (the first year it's produced) and won't have to invest anything in it, i'd say it's a slim shot. Have to give it to it, it perfomes in straight line (probably faster than 135). But following my logic (you will invest to inprove), invest in a chip for 135 and you already know you got quality.

on the other hand, don't buy 135, the less of them around, the more exclusive i'll be when i purchase it.
 
...to the op, sorry about that, kind of read the begining of the threat and didn't bother to read last page. Even without the chip, i think 135 would be a much better over all car. think about it, camaro is going to be first year on the market (let's all remember what happens with most cars that are produced for the first year), especially it being 400hp and american made. You will have quite a bit of issues, and and a lot of dealer visits. 135, in particular v6 TT that it has, has already been out for a while, and most of kinks have been worked out (oil cooler). i'm pretty sure that as soon as you get that camaro, you will notice some problems that are not resolved by the dealer (like with ms3 the 3rd gear ingagement. most of us have put stiffer engine mount). So if you thinking that you'll buy a comaro (the first year it's produced) and won't have to invest anything in it, i'd say it's a slim shot. Have to give it to it, it perfomes in straight line (probably faster than 135). But following my logic (you will invest to inprove), invest in a chip for 135 and you already know you got quality.

on the other hand, don't buy 135, the less of them around, the more exclusive i'll be when i purchase it.


Good points, although it's an inline 6TT. (thumb)
That's the main reason I never buy a car from the first year of production for that model. There are usually just way too many issues, recalls, etc. for me to deal with. Not to say the MSP didn't have any issues, but still...
 
heh, my ms3 was produced apr 07, the only major tsb it didn't fall under was the fuel pump(pre apr 07 lol). I will never buy a 1st year production car, no matter how much money i have. When the car is down, it WILL take time out of your day, and you will endup without a car for a period of time. don't matter if it's bmw 745 (we all know what a pain in the ass that car was when it came out), or if it's kia....
 
You make some good points about 1st year cars Kotik. I too, have a 2007 MS3, but other than the taking it back for the engine mount issue, I haven't had any problems with her.

Regarding the 135 versus the Camaro, I am just not sold on the styling of the 135. The 335 looks a lot smoother, not that the 135 looks bad. Also, it just isn't putting out enough HP for me. And remember... no chips, if you mod it that puts you in a worse position that a first year car regarding potential problems! You chip that car and BWM won't touch it with a 3.048 meter pole.
 
You make some good points about 1st year cars Kotik. I too, have a 2007 MS3, but other than the taking it back for the engine mount issue, I haven't had any problems with her.

Regarding the 135 versus the Camaro, I am just not sold on the styling of the 135. The 335 looks a lot smoother, not that the 135 looks bad. Also, it just isn't putting out enough HP for me. And remember... no chips, if you mod it that puts you in a worse position that a first year car regarding potential problems! You chip that car and BWM won't touch it with a 3.048 meter pole.

thats why you remove mods before showing the car to a dealer? btw my friend with just a standback and a tbe on his 135i ran 12.5 at 115 stock tires
 
what's that have to do with anything?
sooo, if i like bmw that means that i like fast and a furious?? lol... i think two things mean quite opposite. One of the reasons i'm selling my ms3, is so that i'm not associated with some punk ricers.
It means that the first things you've posted have been sort of... slow... and uh... dumb. And the Fast and Furious threads would be a nice fit. You know. For slow... and uh... dumb. No offense, but you so obviously didn't read this thread when you started posting in it. That's sort of a key skill on a message board, you know?
 
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thats why you remove mods before showing the car to a dealer? btw my friend with just a standback and a tbe on his 135i ran 12.5 at 115 stock tires

No thanks. I have a good friend and co-worker who does this all the time with his Integra. It costs him $400 every time. ($200 to take his mods off, and $200 to put them back on) Even if it just cost me $200 total, that seems like a waste of money, and besides, the dealer might catch on eventually.
 
just dont go to dealer or buy viper or ferrari if you want fast stock car

I trust dealers far more than regular mechanic shops.

As far as the Viper or the Ferrari goes... Don't want a Viper at all, and I really can't afford a Ferrari. I am thinking maybe an S5 or a M3.... That is a little more in my price range.
 
i been reallything about getting rid of my car it has cost me 2 tickets as it is and i reather just knock out some bills i owe 8 grand on my car i think i will sell is buy a 5grand clunker lower my insurance no car payment and pocket the money dont be surpised to see my car up for sale soon
 
i been reallything about getting rid of my car it has cost me 2 tickets as it is and i reather just knock out some bills i owe 8 grand on my car i think i will sell is buy a 5grand clunker lower my insurance no car payment and pocket the money dont be surpised to see my car up for sale soon

dibs on the DP! (rockon)
 
maybe you could buy some punctuation with some of that extra cash. if you can get them to throw in a spell checker you'd be golden
 
i been reallything about getting rid of my car it has cost me 2 tickets

I really hope you're joking here. Yes, the CAR is definitely to blame for your 2 tickets as opposed to YOU. Heck, why didn't I think of this? It's the 3 strikes and you're out rule but applied to cars! I can roll in a new car by the 3rd ticket - genius!

Sorry to the OP for going off on a completely unrelated tangent.

I did say 135i in an earlier post I believe. As an update, I would like to say that I finally got to see the new Camaro SS at the recent Auto Show and it looks great from a styling standpoint. Definitely the best looker of the 3 current muscle cars on the market. Don't love the interior but that's kinda the norm when buying American (no offense). Another car that caught my eye was the new 370Z - now that's a great looking car with some balls to back it up. I doubt you'd consider it though seeing that you once owned a G35.
 
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I really hope you're joking here. Yes, the CAR is definitely to blame for your 2 tickets as opposed to YOU. Heck, why didn't I think of this? It's the 3 strikes and you're out rule but applied to cars! I can roll in a new car by the 3rd ticket - genius!

Sorry to the OP for going off on a completely unrelated tangent.

I did say 135i in an earlier post I believe. As an update, I would like to say that I finally got to see the new Camaro SS at the recent Auto Show and it looks great from a styling standpoint. Definitely the best looker of the 3 current muscle cars on the market. Don't love the interior but that's kinda the norm when buying American (no offense). Another car that caught my eye was the new 370Z - now that's a great looking car with some balls to back it up. I doubt you'd consider it though seeing that you once owned a G35.

Yes... you are right. I do like the 370Z, but after owning the G35 I am ready for something different. I haven't seen the SS up close, but I am looking forward to it. My girlfriend (who lives with me and contributes financially) suggested I get the S5...until I told her the price! The 2 SS is still in the top running....
 
2ss is smashing sexy lol. I've been thinking about getting one, selling the turbo stuff I got for my car (I have a 02 protege ES) and paying the rest of my bills off with that money. Keep the protege as a dayly driver, and getting the 2SS. out of those cars I would get the SS. I was also thinking about the NISMO 370Z its way sexy, and more horses (only 18) than the standard 370. But will be mid 40's I think. Haven't found pricing yet.


Yes... you are right. I do like the 370Z, but after owning the G35 I am ready for something different. I haven't seen the SS up close, but I am looking forward to it. My girlfriend (who lives with me and contributes financially) suggested I get the S5...until I told her the price! The 2 SS is still in the top running....
 
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