car goes boom(pics)

the ms3/6 use a floating wrist pin that is held into the piston by C clips on either end, but even if one of those clips falls out there is not enough room to the cylinder wall for the pin to fall out
 
i do not think the engine is as robust when it comes to mods as what an Evo, SRT or STi has under the hood. sorry. flame me for saying that, evidence over time bears that out however.

no flames, this is true. proof is in the pudding. It kinda goes along with what everyone has been saying in here already tho, when you mod this car, be careful and take precautions to avoid seeing problems like this guy has seen.
 
i hate these treads about engine blowing because all the other guys (VW, Honda) will eventally see or hear about it. While i'm walkin them, their gonna think, you got me now, but who wins in the end when you go boom. LOL .. it kind of takes away the satisfaction of smokin these guys and they still thinking .. "at least i'm not a ticking time bomb"

Just the other day, my little brother with a GTI was like "i heard a lot of MS3 are blowning their motors" blah blah and so on.

I'm not agreeing that we a prone to blowup, but i guess i take much pride in my car and i don't want people thinking that either.(shady)
 
So what are "safe" mods for our cars that shouldn't cause any problems if they do not already exist?

I'm building a bit of a mod list, but threads like this make me feel nervous! If, for example, I wanted to upgrade my stock TMIC to one that is more efficient, would I be putting my car at risk?
 
The key word here is "Tune"

With the right supporting mods to any turbo upgrade followed by a good tune, who knows how long a stock block will last. I'm sure all the Honda, Subaru, Mitsubishi's have been through this at one time or another.

Do you mind me asking how long you have been running the upgraded turbo with that OTS AP map?

Its still way early in the game for the Mazda DISI engine, Yes people need to push the limits and get everything worked out but it needs to start some where. We should all be thanking him for pushing the MS3 to the breaking point so we can all learn :)
 
The key word here is "Tune"

With the right supporting mods to any turbo upgrade followed by a good tune, who knows how long a stock block will last. I'm sure all the Honda, Subaru, Mitsubishi's have been through this at one time or another.

Do you mind me asking how long you have been running the upgraded turbo with that OTS AP map?

Its still way early in the game for the Mazda DISI engine, Yes people need to push the limits and get everything worked out but it needs to start some where. We should all be thanking him for pushing the MS3 to the breaking point so we can all learn :)

ive been running that map for 4 months.
 
instead of running preset maps, why didn't you get the standback and get a custom tune to your mods...

seems a bunch safer than running a pre-set map
 
Wow 4 months, Honestly I didn't think it would have lasted that long.

Good luck on getting the new engine, Awesome dealer if all goes through :)
 
Wow 4 months, Honestly I didn't think it would have lasted that long.

Good luck on getting the new engine, Awesome dealer if all goes through :)


why did it surprised you that much, they are other members running bigger turbos and higher psi than me. like i said car was running fine. people think that i abused my car, the ms3 is my daily driver and im a salesman so i go around visiting clients and stuff, i cant be caught racing because then the insurance rate that my company paid as well as the fuel will be raise, i wont deny that i have had my fun with the car and once in a while i do race but is not like im going around everyday stomping on the car and abusing the car. it happened and theres nothing to it, better luck next time.
 
+1

thats y theres aftermarket internals, for your aftermarket turbos ... duh haha

all this bashing on the ms3 ... i don't visit the other forums but how about the cx-7 and ms6? It has the same motor, does it have the same bashing and problems. If it doesn't , then that just dumb this bash this car and call it a pos.

Thing is that I had hoped the DISI would handle more power but it looks like it doesn't. I am satisfied with the stock performance and I want to keep my car for a long time more than 10 years. If you look at other turbo 4s out there some of them do handle more power well look at the evo for example. So I don't thing it's out of line to hope the engine would handle an extra 100hp but this one doesn't. I will just be content with the stock power and leave it at that, it's still the best car I have ever owned.
 
mazda engineers their engines and components to what they expect out of them, historically speaking. this is not news folks. companies like honda, nissan, dodge, etc have been known to overengineer their products. just a corporate mentality. you don't see stock rx7s, rx8s, 323 GTs making hundreds of horsepower on stock engines. SRT offers factory sanctioned reflashes, turbo upgrades, injectors, etc. mazda offers springs and camber kits.

this is not a trash talk on the brand, this is simply how it is. to be a mazda enthusiast you have to be willing to take the car for its limitations as well as its strengths. you have to be willing to take risks and spend the money where needed. its a fact of life that other cars are going to take to mods better or take to abuse better stock. does it make it more challenging to reach those levels? sure. does that make the car less enjoyable to drive? no.

its a 23,000 dollar sport compact, not a 60,000 corvette. there are going to be limitations.
 
yea i would have to agree with ken, i love my car because being a fun ass mazda, deff. not because its the best bang for its buck or the fastest or whatever.

the cars need extra work and attention, but that brings out the extra fun and enjoyment, and my modded p5 was expensive, but deff. worth it. its one of a kind!
 
why did it surprised you that much, they are other members running bigger turbos and higher psi than me. like i said car was running fine. people think that i abused my car, the ms3 is my daily driver and im a salesman so i go around visiting clients and stuff, i cant be caught racing because then the insurance rate that my company paid as well as the fuel will be raise, i wont deny that i have had my fun with the car and once in a while i do race but is not like im going around everyday stomping on the car and abusing the car. it happened and theres nothing to it, better luck next time.

Because your car is not tuned for that turbo setup, yes your not pushing the turbo to the limits but its still a very big upgrade from stock.

I'm sure you weren't racing around who knows, strange things can happen anytime. It just goes to show how fragile motors can be.

Please everyone head over to NASIOC or an EVO forum and check out the steps they take when upgrading there cars, I cant say I see any of them running around on upgraded turbos with out getting tuned.

Back on topic whats the plans for your car?
 
mazda engineers their engines and components to what they expect out of them, historically speaking. this is not news folks. companies like honda, nissan, dodge, etc have been known to overengineer their products. just a corporate mentality. you don't see stock rx7s, rx8s, 323 GTs making hundreds of horsepower on stock engines. SRT offers factory sanctioned reflashes, turbo upgrades, injectors, etc. mazda offers springs and camber kits.

this is not a trash talk on the brand, this is simply how it is. to be a mazda enthusiast you have to be willing to take the car for its limitations as well as its strengths. you have to be willing to take risks and spend the money where needed. its a fact of life that other cars are going to take to mods better or take to abuse better stock. does it make it more challenging to reach those levels? sure. does that make the car less enjoyable to drive? no.

its a 23,000 dollar sport compact, not a 60,000 corvette. there are going to be limitations.


I don't buy that argument. First of all there are plenty of FDs out there pushing mega horsepower. Second if that were the case word would be out and people would know about it, and no one would buy mazdas anymore. This is the first I have heard about this and it sounds made up.
 
I don't buy that argument. First of all there are plenty of FDs out there pushing mega horsepower. Second if that were the case word would be out and people would know about it, and no one would buy mazdas anymore. This is the first I have heard about this and it sounds made up.

your argument is weak. people would not simply boycot mazda because its not known to respond well to high HP. Ken is right, this car has some great strengths, but there are also notable weaknesses, knowing what those are is half the battle
 
your argument is weak. people would not simply boycot mazda because its not known to respond well to high HP. Ken is right, this car has some great strengths, but there are also notable weaknesses, knowing what those are is half the battle

HE is acting like this is some kind of proven fact that mazdas are weaker than everything else out there. And that is BS. The DISI motor is not responding very well to modification. He is trying to say it's a known fact that ALL mazda engines and components are under engineered and I think that is just a pile of BS.
 

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