i do not think the engine is as robust when it comes to mods as what an Evo, SRT or STi has under the hood. sorry. flame me for saying that, evidence over time bears that out however.
The key word here is "Tune"
With the right supporting mods to any turbo upgrade followed by a good tune, who knows how long a stock block will last. I'm sure all the Honda, Subaru, Mitsubishi's have been through this at one time or another.
Do you mind me asking how long you have been running the upgraded turbo with that OTS AP map?
Its still way early in the game for the Mazda DISI engine, Yes people need to push the limits and get everything worked out but it needs to start some where. We should all be thanking him for pushing the MS3 to the breaking point so we can all learn![]()
Wow 4 months, Honestly I didn't think it would have lasted that long.
Good luck on getting the new engine, Awesome dealer if all goes through![]()
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thats y theres aftermarket internals, for your aftermarket turbos ... duh haha
all this bashing on the ms3 ... i don't visit the other forums but how about the cx-7 and ms6? It has the same motor, does it have the same bashing and problems. If it doesn't , then that just dumb this bash this car and call it a pos.
Got any previous data logs to share?ive been running that map for 4 months.
why did it surprised you that much, they are other members running bigger turbos and higher psi than me. like i said car was running fine. people think that i abused my car, the ms3 is my daily driver and im a salesman so i go around visiting clients and stuff, i cant be caught racing because then the insurance rate that my company paid as well as the fuel will be raise, i wont deny that i have had my fun with the car and once in a while i do race but is not like im going around everyday stomping on the car and abusing the car. it happened and theres nothing to it, better luck next time.
mazda engineers their engines and components to what they expect out of them, historically speaking. this is not news folks. companies like honda, nissan, dodge, etc have been known to overengineer their products. just a corporate mentality. you don't see stock rx7s, rx8s, 323 GTs making hundreds of horsepower on stock engines. SRT offers factory sanctioned reflashes, turbo upgrades, injectors, etc. mazda offers springs and camber kits.
this is not a trash talk on the brand, this is simply how it is. to be a mazda enthusiast you have to be willing to take the car for its limitations as well as its strengths. you have to be willing to take risks and spend the money where needed. its a fact of life that other cars are going to take to mods better or take to abuse better stock. does it make it more challenging to reach those levels? sure. does that make the car less enjoyable to drive? no.
its a 23,000 dollar sport compact, not a 60,000 corvette. there are going to be limitations.
I don't buy that argument. First of all there are plenty of FDs out there pushing mega horsepower. Second if that were the case word would be out and people would know about it, and no one would buy mazdas anymore. This is the first I have heard about this and it sounds made up.
What would you consider to be the performance strenghts of the mazdaspeed 3 / 6 ?
your argument is weak. people would not simply boycot mazda because its not known to respond well to high HP. Ken is right, this car has some great strengths, but there are also notable weaknesses, knowing what those are is half the battle