"no meth on either run"
"loosh borrowed someone elses AP"\
"the best of one tunings vs another"
what claimed hp that cobb made are you referring to?
it's a known fact that standbacks don't always do well in different weather conditions. It modifies what the ecu says, regardless of temp, so if you tell it to do something, it'll do what you tell it without questioning if it needs to do something is in 0degree weather or 100 degree weather.
Cobb is far from done with the speed3, they have a LOT of stuff still coming.
the subaru's and mitsubishi's are completely different cars than the ms3 and ms6, it requires completely different software, so it takes time. It took the software for the subaru's and mitsubishis a LONG time after the version2.0 accessport to come out, it'll be the same with the ms3/6.
"we dont sell you the self tuning software until we are done selling the product" what the hell does that even mean?
They said from the beginning that it'll come out, but not at official release. They are far from done selling AP's.
"but it's the COBB fanboys that just say that everything COBB makes is the best thing" how many times in this thread have we said that anything cobb makes is better than anything cp-e makes? Now look at the times you've said that cpe makes better stuff than cobb.
Is that enough for you?
I love how you cut things out to make yourself look better (cool)
My exact words was no meth was used AS FAR AS I KNOW.
And anybody that thinks the AP is best at tunning must be kind of slow in your head. If you want to reduce your timing, or increase some boost, how exactly are you goning to do it with the AP right now? And yes, I said the best RIGHT NOW.
And COBB claimed that the AP has all this potential to have all these gains in hp and all these numbers were thrown around, but now all they claim are percentage gains. What exactly are those percentages based off of? Is it supposed to be my car without the AP and than I'm supposed to see those percentage gains? Thats what people are complaining about, those percentage gains have not even been close so far. Yes, could be quirks, but don't lie to everyone and say their car will come close to those percentage gains.
And what is it that you keep talking about the known fact that the standback doesn't do well in bad weather??? The standback doesn't minipulate the temperature reading from the MAF, and its a known fact that ALL mazdaspeed3 have a temper in bad weather such as really cold weather conditions.
Look, it seems like you are definatly a COBB fanboy, I have a record on my posts when i first bought my car doing my research on all the parts I have, I didn't even know about CP-E. I did the research, I talked to people, I bought the best product I possibly could, because everything I buy I want to last. The AP is not the best tuning solution out, maybe in the future they will be as flexible as the standback, but RIGHT NOW it doesn't compare, and the numbers on the dyno's speak for themselves. And I'm not just talking about laloosh.
There is no descrepensies with what I am saying, I buy the best thing out, and I don't stand by a brand because I like a brand! I was a big Nissan and Stillen fan, and now I bought a MS3 a while ago and am buying the best product, which happens to be CP-E, even if that means I pay more.
I have no reason to be biased, I'm not tied to any company, and I have a record of doing my research on the forums on all the companies. Now if you can just open your eyes and look at all the companies unbiasedly, maybe you might buy a product that is NOT from COBB. sheesh.
