Racing Postion just curious??

Zimmer

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2007 MS3
One thing I always wonder as I toy with different positions...What is the proper seating position arm length / leg length? Height? I'm just curious.

I like to have my seat back tilted back as far as possible so all you see are my knuckles of my hand on the top of the steering wheel... no just kidding ... seriously....(bling)

Obviously different people are taller or shorter ...wider... but is there overall guidlines? Whatever is comfortable for the driver?? Just wondering.

I like my left foot to be fully extended just as the clutch pedal is in I find myself faster with the pedal generally but then but then I feel a little too far from the steering wheel.
 
i saw this video about downshifting and powershifting on yahoo vids i think. the guy said a good distance for driving a manual car is when your back is completely against the seat and you wrist can touch the top part of the steering wheel. i use that and it seems to work pretty good. sometimes i go back a bit when im in chill mode
 
Yes I remember reading something very similar.

With your arm fully extended, your wrist should reach the top of the steering wheel.

And with your clutch fully depressed your leg should not be straight, (it should have a bend to it).
 
I am six feet tall, so I usually have my seat forward one notch from all the way back. My seat is reclined, but only slightly so, it is not at 90 degrees. The top of the steering wheel on the inside is aligned with the bottom of my gauge cluster so I can see them all very well. I used to have it a little lower because it's almost a stretch if I'm driving with one hand on top of the wheel, but recently I've trying to retrain myself to use my left hand on the left side of the steering wheel, around nine o'clock, so I can see my gauges better. This is my standard driving position and if I have my hand on top, my knuckles just wrap over the steering wheel and face forward as if I'm punching.

When I decide to play around, maybe on some back roads, I'll scoot my seat forward 2-3 notches and move the steering wheel to the lowest position available. I do not adjust the seat recline position.
 
you forgot to include laying the seat back as far as possible to still be able to see over the wheel...
Left hand at 12 o' clock, hat tilted sideways, fuzzy dice swaying gently in the breeze.
 
Really sitting upright, hands slightly bent. Its really what your comfortable with, and what will enable you to reach the controls and pedals to preform optimum movements.
 
you forgot to include laying the seat back as far as possible to still be able to see over the wheel...

Woah, buddy, slow down there. That would be too fast and too furious for me.



p.s. I forgot, right hand holding da celly to my ear so I can holla at da shorties.
 
I am six feet tall, so I usually have my seat forward one notch from all the way back.

im about 6'4", and in my older cars id usually ride with my seat pretty far back. they all had high release points and low travel on the clutches, so it wasnt that bad. the MS3 (mine at least, i know a lot of people seem to have different feel to their clutches) has a mid-high release but with a lot of travel. when i first started driving it, i had trouble getting used to the low gear shifts for a few days, as most did, but then i found that i got much better feel for the clutch with the seat further forward. its really not uncomfortable at all (for me at least), i have better shifts and clutch feel, im closer to all the controls, and if someone has to sit behind me i dont have to move the seat anymore.
 
having your back completely against the seat is important because you get maximum support from the seat as well as you can feel the car more.
 
Don't forget -- slightly sideways in the seat and leaning over the center console. This is the most entertaining thread in a while. Thanks for the chuckles.
 
Actually, the wrists should reach the steering wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock positions without your shoulders coming off the back of the seat. Your leg should be slightly bent on the clutch pedal fully depressed. And of course your back should be fully supported by the seat.

If you wear a 4 point harness, it will force you to be straight... The wrist position will force the backrest position, while the legs will control the distance of the seat.
 
I also use the "wrist at 12 w the back fully pressed on the seat" mesaure, but I also see how far my arm is streched when I'm properly driving and applying a bit of steering lock, you should make sure that your arm is a bit bent, even in this position. If your arm is fully streched out, you're using more strength to make steering inputs,wearing yourself out quicker, and you have a bit less sensitivity as to what the wheel is doing. Also, with the arms still bent, you have a bit more strength left in case you need it. Legs should also remain slightly bent with the pedals fully depressed.

Sit up straight but comfortably in your seat. Remember that we have all of our back and butt in the seat, and all that sufrace will give us information as to what the car is doing, provided we are comfortably, but snugly in our seat.
 
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Actually, the wrists should reach the steering wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock positions without your shoulders coming off the back of the seat. Your leg should be slightly bent on the clutch pedal fully depressed. And of course your back should be fully supported by the seat.

If you wear a 4 point harness, it will force you to be straight... The wrist position will force the backrest position, while the legs will control the distance of the seat.

This guy knows what he's talking about. When I went to Skip Barber and Bondurant they explain the seating position exactly the same. I actually drive everyday in this position.

I'm 6', 185lbs and people are always surprised at my seat position when they get into the car with me.
 
Actually, the wrists should reach the steering wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock positions without your shoulders coming off the back of the seat. Your leg should be slightly bent on the clutch pedal fully depressed. And of course your back should be fully supported by the seat.

If you wear a 4 point harness, it will force you to be straight... The wrist position will force the backrest position, while the legs will control the distance of the seat.
This is exactly how I drive. I also have the seat at it's lowest position (6' tall).
 
Personally, I've always driven my cars with the driver's seat nearly as far back as possible and "liberally reclined". Not so far back that I can't reach the steering wheel comfortably, but far enough back that everyone who drives the car lets out an "Oh s***!" as the fall back into the driver's seat when getting in. I'm 6'5", so it was fairly far back.

In the ms3, it was really uncomfortable to put the seat into a similar position. When I did, it felt like the bolsters were poking me in the side as I took turns. I don't know how to describe it...it just felt funny. I now have the seat a couple of clicks from all the way back and slightly reclined (it is nearly straight up--though I'm sure its a couple of clicks back). The first couple of days I had it like this, it felt like I was sitting STRAIGHT up. That feeling faded over time. It is now really comfortable and does "hug you" when you get hard into turns.

I think it all comes down to choosing a position that is comfortable for you, and is not impairing your ability to drive the car correctly. I'm not sure whether I'm conforming to the 3 o'clock-9 o'clock-wrist-bent knee technique, but I'll be sure to check.
 
if you are really racing, you should be sitting closer than you think. it is easier, or takes less effort to move the steering wheel when you sit closer. this works at AX's too! helps you see the cones.
 

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