meh.. feel left out
- Thread starter Hyun
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COBB Off-the-shelf Calibrations Included at Initial Release (are only programmed for the modifications listed)
Stage 1 (Completely stock)
Stage 1 + COBB Intake (COBB SF Intake only, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 (Turbo-back exhaust only, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + COBB Intake (Turbo-back exhaust and COBB SF Intake, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + FMIC (Turbo-back exhaust and COBB FMIC, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + COBB SF Intake + FMIC (turbo-back exhaust, COBB SF Intake, and COBB FMIC, otherwise stock
Valet Mode
Anti-theft Mode
Custom Tuning
AccessTUNER Pro (Professional Tuning Software) – Date not released yet
AccessTUNER Race (End-User Tuning Software for Race Teams, equivalent feature wise to what used to be referred to as AccessPORT StreetTUNER, is intended for race teams intending to tune one vehicle) – Date not released yet
AcccesTUNER Race maps can be shared with other users that have AccessTUNER Race enabled AccessPORTs.
Stage 1 (Completely stock)
Stage 1 + COBB Intake (COBB SF Intake only, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 (Turbo-back exhaust only, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + COBB Intake (Turbo-back exhaust and COBB SF Intake, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + FMIC (Turbo-back exhaust and COBB FMIC, otherwise stock)
Stage 2 + COBB SF Intake + FMIC (turbo-back exhaust, COBB SF Intake, and COBB FMIC, otherwise stock
Valet Mode
Anti-theft Mode
Custom Tuning
AccessTUNER Pro (Professional Tuning Software) – Date not released yet
AccessTUNER Race (End-User Tuning Software for Race Teams, equivalent feature wise to what used to be referred to as AccessPORT StreetTUNER, is intended for race teams intending to tune one vehicle) – Date not released yet
AcccesTUNER Race maps can be shared with other users that have AccessTUNER Race enabled AccessPORTs.
lol, I see your point, but not everyone has $175 to just throw out on top of the cost of the AP heh
I dont know the differences between the two tune maps, but I would imagine that the cobb has higher HP number by leaning out the mixture a tad (by being a shorter ram or using a free-er flowing filter...I dont know exactally)...if you were running the ms CAI and it was not leaning out the mixture as much all you are going to do is richen up the AP tune a little bit
it may result in lower hp numbers, but I highly doubt it would do any damage to run the cai instead
again though, I don't know what the two maps look like so I could also just be blowing smoke out my a**
look at the msp with the unichip...its a piggy back setup with only one tune on it...you can run stock intake, cai, turboback exhaust, any brand, you name it....it would not damage your car if you had a different set of mods, you would just see different hp numbers
the logic behind saying that it is not good to run it with a ms cai over a cobb intake is not really there though...thats like saying 'the stock computer is tuned by mazda, so running the ms cai would be better than running the cobb'....
I dont know the differences between the two tune maps, but I would imagine that the cobb has higher HP number by leaning out the mixture a tad (by being a shorter ram or using a free-er flowing filter...I dont know exactally)...if you were running the ms CAI and it was not leaning out the mixture as much all you are going to do is richen up the AP tune a little bit
it may result in lower hp numbers, but I highly doubt it would do any damage to run the cai instead
again though, I don't know what the two maps look like so I could also just be blowing smoke out my a**
look at the msp with the unichip...its a piggy back setup with only one tune on it...you can run stock intake, cai, turboback exhaust, any brand, you name it....it would not damage your car if you had a different set of mods, you would just see different hp numbers
the logic behind saying that it is not good to run it with a ms cai over a cobb intake is not really there though...thats like saying 'the stock computer is tuned by mazda, so running the ms cai would be better than running the cobb'....
Your motor will most likely blow
Cobb reps will come to your house and beat you.....
but seriously now, I think the FMIC map would not give you the full benefit because with TMICs (don't get me wrong, I'm going to upgrade my TMIC too) there is still an issue of heatsoak, especially in stop and go traffic. Because the FMIC is more consistent the map is probably more aggressive and you may run into issues on your setup.
Of course, I have nothing to back this up with. I say, call up Cobb and ask someone. They will be able to tell you better than any of us. Good luck with it(drinks)
smakdown61
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The ecu in the ms3 is WAY different than the MSP. The MAF has been shown to be extremely sensitive to inputs and is used as a primary variable by the ecu to determine boost and afr (all according to cobb). They aren't bullshitting or pimping their own intake. They said they would have a map for the MS CAI up in a few weeks. They don't have any obligation to buy and test other company's crap parts but they know there are alot of MS CAI owners out there so it would be profitable.
I understand that the ms3 is way different than the msp, I was speaking about tuning, the msp was an example though there are MANY other cars out there that have the same scenario as well
however, I do stand corrected as I was not aware that cobb was making a special map for the ms cai...if that is the case then use that, but if that were not the case I would still argue that it would not hurt anything to run the cobb intake tune on the ms cai
however, I do stand corrected as I was not aware that cobb was making a special map for the ms cai...if that is the case then use that, but if that were not the case I would still argue that it would not hurt anything to run the cobb intake tune on the ms cai
