spun bearing 2xxx miles

[Betelgeuse]

So, are you just bent on trying to disprove everyone's issues on the interwebs? Give the guy the benefit of the doubt. You're obviously not the only one who knows a damn about cars.

Um, kid, don't tell me how to post. You're 22, act like it. At your age, trolling should be a thing of the past. From now on you'll be ignored.

 

[Betelgeuse]

Update: Mazda sent my dealer the regular 2.3, not the mzr turbo LOL. He is getting the whole engine, not just the shortblock. The car spun a bearing causing the piston to go wacko, which in turn hit and bent a valve. Lots of scoring on cylinder wall apparently.

Did they give any more info on what they think caused the bearing failure? If they'd let you take some pics that would be great. Anyway glad you're getting fixed up.

 

[Fear]

Um, kid, don't tell me how to post. You're 22, act like it. At your age, trolling should be a thing of the past. From now on you'll be ignored.

What a shame, you ignoring me. Quit telling people how to drive and assuming that everyone beats the s*** out of their respective cars. It's ignorant and unnecessary.

 

[paulfitipauldi]

Since you have nothing to prove to me, I don't have to believe a word you say just because you came on here and typed it. It works both ways.

But to answer your last question, a lot of things can cause the rods to bend. Poor maintenance, no oil, bad oil pump, oil starvation, mods, detonation, hydrolock, engine defect etc.

let's see Ripley

with poor maintenance the engine get stuck
with no oil , again, the engine get stuck
bad oil pump , again, engine stuck
oil starvation, engine stuck
Mods, piston failure
detonation , again, piston failure
Hydrolock, there you are
enigne defect there you are again

see youre not too smart (stooges),, youre guessing here
youre debating something that you dont even now

 

[paulfitipauldi]

Hitting the valves is either valve float or bad timing which considering how the timing gears and crank pully have no key ways that seams like a more logical issue.

^agree with you,, the manager told me that mazda sent him a tsb that the cam pulley get stuck and that can cause the valves to hit the pistons so it is not recomended to put syntetic oil in this engines too

 

[Betelgeuse]

let's see Ripley

with poor maintenance the engine get stuck
with no oil , again, the engine get stuck
bad oil pump , again, engine stuck
oil starvation, engine stuck
Mods, piston failure
detonation , again, piston failure
Hydrolock, there you are
enigne defect there you are again

see youre not too smart (stooges),, youre guessing here
youre debating something that you dont even now

lol. You're the man. I bow to you and take everything back. It's quite clear to me now that you know a lot more than I gave you credit for. Sorry I doubted you.

 

[racekar]

^agree with you,, the manager told me that mazda sent him a tsb that the cam pulley get stuck and that can cause the valves to hit the pistons so it is not recomended to put syntetic oil in this engines too

why is it not recommended not to use synth oil on this engine?

 

[Leazon]

I was just checking these forums prior to buying a MS3 - really glad I did. A couple of points:

I also checked the MS6 forums on another site - they are having the same issue. Thrown rods - most often #4 cylinder. I understand that usually you will find more complainers since they are upset but there are definitely quite a few people having this issue. They even had a link to a video of an MS3 with a rod knocking. I also checked the forums when I bought my '06 RSX-S and they talked about the second gear grinding when shifting - they were right.

A point about how you drive - the MS3 is a performance car and it should be able to be driven as such. For instance: I'm in outside sales and drive 20,000 - 40,000 miles per year. My first sport compact was a '93 Sentra SE-R. Put 170,000 miles on it and drove the piss out of it - no engine problems. Next was a '97 Integra GSR put 280,000 miles on it - red line shifts (8100 rpm) at least 5 times a day and 150 mph blasts on the interstate at least once per month. Was not in the shop once - did have a cracked radiator tank but fixed that myself. Next was the '06 RSX-S it had 57,000 miles on it until it got destroyed last week. Drove the piss out of it too was not in the shop once.

I test drove the MS3 today and have to admit it put a smile on my face. I have a friend with a '92 Miata and an aftermarket turbo who has put 20K-30K on it with no problems but he is only running 5-6 lbs of boost. Historically speaking 15 lbs of boost is a ton!

From the sounds of it the MS3 might be ok if you're not going to drive it much or if you drive like a "blue hair" but it doesn't sound like it will hold up to the kind of driving over an extended life like I have had in the past. To be fair I'm not sure any forced induction car would hold up like my previous cars. Although I have heard good things about the WRX reliability. Guess I'll go check their forums.

Thanks for the heads-up folks! These forums are serious valuable when researching new cars.

 

[08ms3bm]

Update 2: Mazda cannot find a 2.3 MZR motor for my poor old dad! They are on backorder. . . ?

 

[Pirana]

Thats ridicolous...I guess they are replacing them like old $1 bills! Anyway are have they given you a rental?

 

[08ms3bm]

Ya he got a rental. The dealer thinks that the only motor that will be available will be off of the assembly line in Japan. They have 16 days until the 30 day in service lemon law takes place. God speed Mazda Japan!

 

[bmman93]

it took 1 weekAND A 1/2 to get mine from over there and get it to md! good luck. good news was went it got her i had it back a day and a half later good as new!

 

[Pirana]

so if they cant fix it within the 30 days they buy it back?

 

[08ms3bm]

If it isn't done in 30 days he gets a new car or they pay him the value of the car when he bought it.

 

[08ms3bm]

it took 1 weekAND A 1/2 to get mine from over there and get it to md! good luck. good news was went it got her i had it back a day and a half later good as new!

What happened to your speed?

 

[bmman93]

it thew a rod b/c of dad bearing at 8100 miles!

 

[Sacrilicious]

I was just checking these forums prior to buying a MS3 - really glad I did. A couple of points:

I also checked the MS6 forums on another site - they are having the same issue. Thrown rods - most often #4 cylinder. I understand that usually you will find more complainers since they are upset but there are definitely quite a few people having this issue. They even had a link to a video of an MS3 with a rod knocking. I also checked the forums when I bought my '06 RSX-S and they talked about the second gear grinding when shifting - they were right.

A point about how you drive - the MS3 is a performance car and it should be able to be driven as such. For instance: I'm in outside sales and drive 20,000 - 40,000 miles per year. My first sport compact was a '93 Sentra SE-R. Put 170,000 miles on it and drove the piss out of it - no engine problems. Next was a '97 Integra GSR put 280,000 miles on it - red line shifts (8100 rpm) at least 5 times a day and 150 mph blasts on the interstate at least once per month. Was not in the shop once - did have a cracked radiator tank but fixed that myself. Next was the '06 RSX-S it had 57,000 miles on it until it got destroyed last week. Drove the piss out of it too was not in the shop once.

I test drove the MS3 today and have to admit it put a smile on my face. I have a friend with a '92 Miata and an aftermarket turbo who has put 20K-30K on it with no problems but he is only running 5-6 lbs of boost. Historically speaking 15 lbs of boost is a ton!

From the sounds of it the MS3 might be ok if you're not going to drive it much or if you drive like a "blue hair" but it doesn't sound like it will hold up to the kind of driving over an extended life like I have had in the past. To be fair I'm not sure any forced induction car would hold up like my previous cars. Although I have heard good things about the WRX reliability. Guess I'll go check their forums.

Thanks for the heads-up folks! These forums are serious valuable when researching new cars.

WOAH! hold up here, cause you're drawing conclusions WAY too quickly. all that should be read from this thread is that a very small minority of people have been unlucky enough to pick up a lemon motor. the vast majority of MS3 owners are still damn happy with their choice, because their cars run like dreams. i've put 15k miles on my car, and i've only had it for 8 months...no problems at all! this spun bearing definitely sounds like an isolated incident that should not mark the whole product line. if our motor were THAT sensitive, there wouldn't be any running MS3's around...=/

 

[desperado-c]

WOAH! hold up here, cause you're drawing conclusions WAY too quickly. all that should be read from this thread is that a very small minority of people have been unlucky enough to pick up a lemon motor. the vast majority of MS3 owners are still damn happy with their choice, because their cars run like dreams. i've put 15k miles on my car, and i've only had it for 8 months...no problems at all! this spun bearing definitely sounds like an isolated incident that should not mark the whole product line. if our motor were THAT sensitive, there wouldn't be any running MS3's around...=/

Yeah, pretty low odds to base your decision on. Especially, since there is more than a hint of boost controlling and other things going with a fair share of the small number of thrown rods. Also, it's a tiny turbo, so the net effect of a relatively high psi coming out of the turbo has to be less significant than you're making out. But it's your money, so deny yourself the pleasure of owning an MS3 if you want.

 

[desperado-c]

^agree with you,, the manager told me that mazda sent him a tsb that the cam pulley get stuck and that can cause the valves to hit the pistons so it is not recomended to put syntetic oil in this engines too

Complete BS. A TSB like this would have spread like wildfire through the community. We have members who are Mazda mechanics and friends of Mazda mechanics who would not keep this a secret. If it's a real TSB, he can show you a copy. As far as I know Mazda doesn't recommend synth b/c it doesn't work well in rotary engines, causing smoking or some such. Why Mazda's piston engines would be the only modern engines that don't work much better with synth is a complete mystery to me.

 

[racekar]

I was just checking these forums prior to buying a MS3 - really glad I did. A couple of points:

I also checked the MS6 forums on another site - they are having the same issue. Thrown rods - most often #4 cylinder. I understand that usually you will find more complainers since they are upset but there are definitely quite a few people having this issue. They even had a link to a video of an MS3 with a rod knocking. I also checked the forums when I bought my '06 RSX-S and they talked about the second gear grinding when shifting - they were right.

A point about how you drive - the MS3 is a performance car and it should be able to be driven as such. For instance: I'm in outside sales and drive 20,000 - 40,000 miles per year. My first sport compact was a '93 Sentra SE-R. Put 170,000 miles on it and drove the piss out of it - no engine problems. Next was a '97 Integra GSR put 280,000 miles on it - red line shifts (8100 rpm) at least 5 times a day and 150 mph blasts on the interstate at least once per month. Was not in the shop once - did have a cracked radiator tank but fixed that myself. Next was the '06 RSX-S it had 57,000 miles on it until it got destroyed last week. Drove the piss out of it too was not in the shop once.

I test drove the MS3 today and have to admit it put a smile on my face. I have a friend with a '92 Miata and an aftermarket turbo who has put 20K-30K on it with no problems but he is only running 5-6 lbs of boost. Historically speaking 15 lbs of boost is a ton!

From the sounds of it the MS3 might be ok if you're not going to drive it much or if you drive like a "blue hair" but it doesn't sound like it will hold up to the kind of driving over an extended life like I have had in the past. To be fair I'm not sure any forced induction car would hold up like my previous cars. Although I have heard good things about the WRX reliability. Guess I'll go check their forums.

Thanks for the heads-up folks! These forums are serious valuable when researching new cars.

I had a 2006 wrx and got rid of it, at least on our forums we dont have a "who has problems with their transmissions" thread. The wrx tranny doesnt seem to hold up to well if you drive it hard/ aggressive out of 1st gear.
I sold it after 6000 miles because my tranny started grinding in 1-3 gear shifting slowly and smoothly, and sometimes hard to get in gear. It is by far the worst trannsmission shifting i have experienced. tried it once and will never go back to subaru just dont like their cars/performance.

car was too heavy during tracking brakes sucked compared to the speed3

if this speed fails me im just going to stick with honda and acuras.