now how can i prove this to the dealer? As soon as i go their, they look at you like your ******* criminal with a $25,000 car. WTF do u want!
NO more blue smoke!
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now how can i prove this to the dealer? As soon as i go their, they look at you like your ******* criminal with a $25,000 car. WTF do u want!
peterdaniel
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I think all of you guys are real idiots for messing with a perfectly good factory system and violating the law as well.
Sheesh, how old are you guys anyways?
Not only that, you probably voided your warranty and I know for sure, most people will run for the hills if you were to try and sell them the car with a hacked up exhaust
Plus, you gain nothing, or at least something so small it wasn't worth the trouble.
if I were Mazda, I would completely void your warranty, and your nice new very technical car can go up in more than just blue smoke...
Sheesh, why can't folks just leave things be?
Sheesh, how old are you guys anyways?
Not only that, you probably voided your warranty and I know for sure, most people will run for the hills if you were to try and sell them the car with a hacked up exhaust
Plus, you gain nothing, or at least something so small it wasn't worth the trouble.
if I were Mazda, I would completely void your warranty, and your nice new very technical car can go up in more than just blue smoke...
Sheesh, why can't folks just leave things be?
peterdaniel
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well, I wouldn't call you a "criminal" persay, but what you did was illegal.. Sort of like the low life losers that go out and commit a viscous crime, hurt other people and then in the course of events get shot or beat up and then they come to my emergency room asking for "help" if it was up to me... I would tell them to go(humpleg)
lol... Of course, thats not you.. but what do you want Mazda to do for you?
yeah, they might not cover your warranty and yes of course they will use every excuse in the book, but then its on your ass and your time and your trouble to prove them wrong..
Is it really worth the perceived gains you got from doing what you did??
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SuperStretch18
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So long as you have the stock exhaust on, it should go something like:
niz55: "Every so often, I get a huge cloud of blue smoke on idle; it doesn't seem normal and I'm worried that there is something wrong with my new car."
Dealer: "If we can't replicate it, then we can't fix it...blah, blah, blah"
niz55: "I understand that, but I have heard that there have been issues with turbo seals failing and there is a diagnostic that you can run to check for issues."
Dealer: "I've never heard of that, you must have read that on an internet forum... blah, blah..."
niz55: "I learned it because a friend had a similar issue and another dealer was able to help him. Maybe I should just go there, as they are probably more equiped to work on the mazdaspeed vehicles..."
Dealer: "Let me ask one of the service guys and see what they can do..."
Your just asking them to take a look at the car. They might charge you a fee if they don't find anything, but if you were getting blue smoke, it is unlikely that there are no issues.
If you haven't sent in your dealer survey from the original purchase, I would play that card with the salesman, as that directly impacts their bonuses...
niz55: "Every so often, I get a huge cloud of blue smoke on idle; it doesn't seem normal and I'm worried that there is something wrong with my new car."
Dealer: "If we can't replicate it, then we can't fix it...blah, blah, blah"
niz55: "I understand that, but I have heard that there have been issues with turbo seals failing and there is a diagnostic that you can run to check for issues."
Dealer: "I've never heard of that, you must have read that on an internet forum... blah, blah..."
niz55: "I learned it because a friend had a similar issue and another dealer was able to help him. Maybe I should just go there, as they are probably more equiped to work on the mazdaspeed vehicles..."
Dealer: "Let me ask one of the service guys and see what they can do..."
Your just asking them to take a look at the car. They might charge you a fee if they don't find anything, but if you were getting blue smoke, it is unlikely that there are no issues.
If you haven't sent in your dealer survey from the original purchase, I would play that card with the salesman, as that directly impacts their bonuses...
SuperStretch18
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It makes me feel superior to have a car that's faster than stock. Probably similar to the feeling you got from writing your responses...
Tsk, tsk everyone; tsk, tsk...
The real point is that the issue is not DUE to the modifications the OP made; they ALLOWED him to see an existing issue with the "perfectly good factory system"...
WOW. I was just their right now and the same thing happend. Amazing! He told me where is the smoke? I told him it does not smoke with the factory cat, I told him it happend when i replaced the cat with a testpipe. Ok, cant cover the car if it is modeified. Wtf? ******* making me crazy. He told me the blue smoke is normal if you dont have a cat. So after 10 min he started yelling at me. I asked him is it ok if i talk to one of the techs, and he said no they are busy. I asked him can i at least get a drawing of the turbocharger on our cars? He said sure and we went inside to parts dep. I explained everything to the parts guy and even he said is not normal. They told me they had replaced a turbo on CX-7 that had 120,000 miles. Lots of miles for a new car dont you guys think? But yeh is not going anywhere. As long as it does not do it when u have the stock exhaust you cant do s*** about it. And if you mod ur exhaust, Well, Bye bye Warranty. They got us traped. When my s*** goes bad then i will go to the dealer. So **** it! **** mazda Turbo's and their service advisor.
PS.. He told me our cars loose 1qt of oil every 1500 miles. Is this true? It was also in the warranty book he showed me.
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SharkDiver
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Its a muffler...If they wanted a resonator there they would use the same resonators as the other 2.If you look in it you will see the honeycomb sides that are there to muffle the sound.Just because its a straight thru design doesnt mean its a resonator.Not all mufflers have chambers...
Do you even own a mazda speed3? I had lots of turbo cars in the past. Wrx, srt-4 vr-4, gsx and all of them had full 3" Tb. I never seen any blue smoke blow out of them untill now on ******* brand new 2008 speed3.
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honey comb sides just like the other 2 resiantors, they just made it look like a muffler a true muffler has chambers in it. if you want to believe its a muffler thats ok....
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in the end a resinator muffles the sound so you could say the car has 3 mufflers...BUT the straight thru design is a trademark of th resiantor
true..
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also i must say i was most pleased with the sound when i removed the 3rd and final resinator(lol2) if i would have known how it would sound i would have removed all 3 at once
AutoXRacer
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Its not normal for a car to burn 1qt of oil in 1500 miles...thats just crazy talk!!!
You can always play the game...the dealer can not VOID your warrantee. They have to prove that the modification you made caused the failure. If they can not technically prove it, they can not void your warrantee.
Do you have another mazda dealer in the area?
Its common sense that a car is not supposed to smoke. I would have spoken to the general manager... And I would give Mazda North America a call...the Mazda customer service number. There have been numberous Mazdaspeed3 owners that have had their turbos replaced...
Don't give up...
SuperStretch18
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Shouldn't have mentioned removing the cat, but in any case...
There is no such thing as a service tech voiding your warranty. Mazda USA can, but your local service department can not. The implication he made is that if a spring blew, that wouldn't be covered by warranty, which is bull. I would have pulled Magnuson-Moss so fast his head would spin...
By the way, how the hell did you get an appointment so fast?!?
ok now your just being a drama queen. Comparing someone who altered their exhaust to a common criminal, and "your" e.r? Ha unless your a physician then its not "your" e.r and I really doubt a doctor would misspell vicious (unless you were speaking of their gelatinous properties?) No, your arrogant attitude sounds more like a cocky tech or b****y r.n. so go back to filling paper work and connecting ekg's that you struggle to read and stop making someone who did absolutely nothing wrong and is complaining of an underlying issue which was uncovered by a modification that is hardly to blame for any malfunction feel like they are at fault . oh and before you call the gains this gives "minimal" maybe you should at least check into your statements and you would see that they average 30-50 hp gains with exhaust, not so minimal.
now had this been about street racing or b.s like that then your hissy fit may have been merited, but in this case your simply being annoying. So please, with all due respect (which i will give you a tad of for being in the same field as I) if you cant give helpful input then keep your ridiculous notions to your self.
as for the smoke. it does come from a oil seal leak, it is hidden by the cats, it will eventually get worse (could be a long time though) and the end result wont be good. my suggestion is to find a dealer who is more understanding, or speak directly to a tech who should know something about this. there is no reason for them not to cover this because the problem exist with or without the test pipe. you just need to find someone who can pull their head out their ass long enough to hear you out.
SharkDiver
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If my memory is correct the resonators dont have honycomb sides,They are hollow.Why do you think mazda would make a resonator look like a muffler?Thats not very cost effective.Dont you think they would use the same resonator as the other 2 if they wanted 3 resonators??IF you dont beleave me call your mazda dealer and ask them.Ive had a few mufflers on my cars that are straight thru,That dont make them resonators.The honycombs are there to muffle the sound hense the name Muffler.If you want to beleave its a resonator then thats ok..
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so by your own words the car has no resinators and 3 mufflers instaed of 2 resiantors and 1 muffler??
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our resiantors are hollow... they just have the honey comb sides..
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SharkDiver
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You beleave what you want...Im not goint to go thru this again./
